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Or at least not based on that article. Stepanov advocates algorithms, which is good if you're writing an ultra-performant program to do a specific task. But most programmers now have to do multi-task and ultra-complexity programs. That shopping cart web page is I/O bound anyway and has to handle ever-changing CRM profiling, page style, auditing regulations and tax calculations. Their requirements change independently. I don't need a generic algorithm, I need frameworks, micro-architectures, analysis patterns and design patterns. So, this results in poor performance. CPU time is cheaper than programmer time.

So, languages like Java can't do
template <class StrictWeakOrdered>\ninline StrictWeakOrdered& max(StrictWeakOrdered& x,\nStrictWeakOrdered& y) {\nreturn x < y ? y : x;\n}


Just use the Comparable interface, typecast and use instanceof as needed. That's your 'covariant signature transformation and an ability to obtain types from types'. It's ugly but I'm not going to cry because of that.

Now, if I was writing games, all this would be the wrong approach and Java, OO, layered architecture, design patterns and all the rest would be jettisoned and C++ would be in from the cold. But that's too specialist for me.

I don't need a language with cleverness but third-party libraries with conflicting, garbage collection schemes. That gets in the way of the architectures and algorithms I need to devise.
Matthew Greet


But we must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig, cow after cow, village after village, army after army. And they call me an assassin. What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin? They lie. They lie and we must be merciful to those who lie.
- Colonol Kurtz, Apocalypse Now.
New Generics are a pain in the rear
Collections that deal with objects are much more easy to deal with in my opinion.

And personally, I'd use ObjectiveC over C++ for games.
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