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New I don't know Perl
But if the features Barry named were descriptive, he's probably described the cycle better than I could have (combined wth the IBM link/flowchart).

For the bulk of my work on the '400, the cycle has been a major blessing. RPG itself has some big drawbacks, though. 99% of what you are manipulating are DB (or screen) files. Consider it in that context...

Indicator conditioning can make a program unreadable, for example. Especially when multiple indicators are used on a single line of code. String handling is a total PITA.
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
Expand Edited by imric April 24, 2005, 09:04:18 PM EDT
New Don't even bother
You really can't describe indicator processing without
showing someone the form you fill out.

I haven't seen indicators in about 20 years, and
I'm still traumatized.

When I was learning COBOL in the 6 month tech school, I
taught myself RPG II at the same time. Every problem they
gave me in COBOL, I did in RPG as well. 1/10th the code.

But it really wasn't code. Was more of a fill in the table.
New Whoa, that takes me back.
I haven't seen that form in many years.. More important was the template.

Some tasks (like, say, generating reports) are trivial to do in RPG - but, while everything is/was postional, writing RPG code is hardly just filling out a form... As for Cobol, BLEAH. Comparing verbosity? Heehee.
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New But, COBOL programs can be read by management! :)
Or so they promissed.
Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
New Cobol DOES give that illusion...
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Oh, sure they can, that's no illusion.
Just remember that "reading" is not the same as "comprehending". (For one thing, they're spelled way differently.)


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New heheh.
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Yeah, the same way I can read Hebrew :)
I can sound the words, if they are simple.

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New *chuckle*
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
     OK, explain the cycle to the ignorant masses here -NT - (tuberculosis) - (22)
         What, again? - (imric) - (21)
             I'd have to use it to see the point - (ben_tilly) - (18)
                 Unfortunately true for many. - (imric) - (17)
                     I dunno, Skip - (jb4) - (3)
                         You're up on me - (imric)
                         SNOBOL *Two*? - (static) - (1)
                             SNOBOL2 most definitely != SNOBOL4 -NT - (jb4)
                     Can you give a concrete example? - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                         I was thinking of that. - (imric)
                         Think of perl autolooping - (broomberg) - (10)
                             I'm thinking about that and... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                 I don't know Perl - (imric) - (8)
                                     Don't even bother - (broomberg) - (7)
                                         Whoa, that takes me back. - (imric) - (6)
                                             But, COBOL programs can be read by management! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                                                 Cobol DOES give that illusion... -NT - (imric) - (2)
                                                     Oh, sure they can, that's no illusion. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                         heheh. -NT - (imric)
                                                 Yeah, the same way I can read Hebrew :) - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                     *chuckle* -NT - (imric)
             Ignoring the cycle - (FuManChu) - (1)
                 Because - (imric)

But don't get all fretty-pants on us.
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