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Post #201,972
by Arkadiy
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4/5/05 10:43:29 AM
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New We've had this discussion before
but I do have to say that the basic thesis is that "God" is not God, but there is a real, higher level "GOD" who is everything we expect from God. There is also "GOd" who is not as good as "GOD" but better than "God". I guess there should be a "god", for completness' sake, but I could not find it. Nor could I find a "dog", either.
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Post #201,979
by ben_tilly
4/5/05 11:18:07 AM
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New And we still disagree
First of all I think that the ending was a bit of a deus ex machina just to find a way of finishing, and the theology given there was not central to the rest of the book.

Secondly these higher level deities didn't pay nearly as much attention to us as traditional notions of God would. (In fact even for God and Satan, getting their attention wasn't entirely trivial.)

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     Why did anyone pray for the Pope? - (warmachine) - (44) - April 2, 2005, 05:45:05 PM EST
         Prayer is supposed to be as much about acceptance... - (ChrisR) - April 2, 2005, 06:04:26 PM EST
         Depends on how you look at it. - (Another Scott) - April 2, 2005, 06:12:18 PM EST
         prayer of thanks in recognition of his contributions - (boxley) - (2) - April 2, 2005, 06:58:09 PM EST
             Exactly - (bionerd) - (1) - April 3, 2005, 02:07:09 PM EDT
                 Many - What is left? - (broomberg) - April 3, 2005, 02:46:31 PM EDT
         Anyone here catch PBS's ~2 hr. redux Saturday? - (Ashton) - (5) - April 3, 2005, 11:11:03 PM EDT
             The only ambivalent story I saw was at the NY Times. - (Another Scott) - (4) - April 3, 2005, 11:28:03 PM EDT
                 And no Italian restoration? :) - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - April 4, 2005, 08:56:33 AM EDT
                     Let's look at the correlation of forces - (rcareaga) - (2) - April 4, 2005, 10:04:16 AM EDT
                         You bad man - (Ashton) - April 4, 2005, 11:24:16 PM EDT
                         I have another idea - (pwhysall) - April 5, 2005, 12:58:26 AM EDT
         Another Popinion - - (Ashton) - (32) - April 5, 2005, 05:31:00 AM EDT
             As young girls my wife and SIL were Catholic. - (Another Scott) - (25) - April 5, 2005, 07:39:23 AM EDT
                 It was probably confession before communion - (bionerd) - (24) - April 5, 2005, 10:12:53 AM EDT
                     All the best people will be there. - (Andrew Grygus) - April 5, 2005, 10:24:40 AM EDT
                     If you haven't read it... - (ben_tilly) - (22) - April 5, 2005, 10:32:35 AM EDT
                         We've had this discussion before - (Arkadiy) - (1) - April 5, 2005, 10:43:29 AM EDT
                             And we still disagree - (ben_tilly) - April 5, 2005, 11:18:07 AM EDT
                         Ummm - (bionerd) - (6) - April 5, 2005, 02:08:28 PM EDT
                             Job - God's little victim -NT - (tuberculosis) - April 5, 2005, 07:06:34 PM EDT
                             Moral: - (imric) - (3) - April 5, 2005, 09:43:44 PM EDT
                                 Today was a perfect example - (broomberg) - (2) - April 5, 2005, 11:34:20 PM EDT
                                     Yes. Sounds like someone I would have liked to know. - (imric) - April 5, 2005, 11:16:24 PM EDT
                                     Condolences. :-( Sounds like she lived a great life. -NT - (Another Scott) - April 5, 2005, 11:30:52 PM EDT
                             The basic story - (ben_tilly) - April 6, 2005, 12:01:35 AM EDT
                         Or_____Small Gods - (Ashton) - (12) - April 6, 2005, 02:36:59 AM EDT
                             Pratchett is VERY highly recommended -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 6, 2005, 10:42:59 AM EDT
                                 Annoyingly DNA-esque to my British mind. -NT - (pwhysall) - April 6, 2005, 12:23:09 PM EDT
                             Oh yes, yes indeed. -NT - (Arkadiy) - (3) - April 6, 2005, 11:00:27 AM EDT
                                 You arent the first to recommend Pratchett to me - (bionerd) - (2) - April 6, 2005, 11:48:32 AM EDT
                                     Move it up the list. Preferably to the top. - (ben_tilly) - April 6, 2005, 01:39:51 PM EDT
                                     Read it - (broomberg) - April 6, 2005, 07:32:04 PM EDT
                             His best work I think -NT - (tuberculosis) - (5) - April 6, 2005, 12:02:33 PM EDT
                                 Well, that explains that. - (inthane-chan) - (4) - April 6, 2005, 12:29:12 PM EDT
                                     Others are kind of hit or miss - (tuberculosis) - (3) - April 6, 2005, 05:03:16 PM EDT
                                         Try Carpe Jugulum -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2) - April 6, 2005, 11:18:44 PM EDT
                                             I think my favourite is Lords and Ladies. - (static) - April 6, 2005, 11:37:19 PM EDT
                                             Did it - (tuberculosis) - April 7, 2005, 07:28:07 AM EDT
             What about Hadrian VII? - (rcareaga) - (5) - April 7, 2005, 09:27:03 PM EDT
                 Thanks for the reminder - (GBert) - April 7, 2005, 06:46:37 PM EDT
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - April 7, 2005, 06:49:16 PM EDT
                 On list - (Ashton) - (2) - April 8, 2005, 03:12:17 AM EDT
                     For a fine treatment of New Religion... - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 8, 2005, 07:12:28 AM EDT
                         No - Salvation is At Hand!__\ufffd All Hail The Unitarian Jihad \ufffd (new thread) - (Ashton) - April 9, 2005, 03:41:54 AM EDT

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