Kyrgyzstan!

[link|http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050320/ap/d88unvsg1.html|Gezundheit.]

Excerpts:

At least 10,000 pro-democracy protesters stormed a police station and forced workers to flee a governor's office in Kyrgyzstan on Sunday, a government spokesman said, in the biggest demonstration since allegedly fraudulent elections last month.

The government said it was ready to negotiate with the protesters who have demanded President Askar Akayev's resignation.

"We hope there will be no further violence," presidential aide Abdil Seghizbayev said.

Opposition leader Kurmanbek Bakiyev said talks would only be possible if Akayev himself sits down at negotiating table.

"All other lower level negotiations will be just a waste of time," he said.

Police fled to the roof of their station, firing shots into the air to deter the stone-throwing protesters in the southern city of Jalal-Abad, regional government spokesman Orazaly Karasartov said...

The riot was the latest in a string of nationwide protests sparked by the Feb. 27 parliamentary elections in which President Akayev's allies fared overwhelmingly well. Critics claim the vote and a subsequent runoff election were marred by widespread abuses.

Europe and the United States said the polls were seriously flawed, a charge denied by the government.

Sunday's riot came a day after police forcibly evicted demonstrators from the governor's office in Jalal-Abad and another government building in the city of Osh. More than a dozen people, including three police officers, were injured and more than 200 demonstrators were arrested, police and civic activists said.

Protesters were still occupying five other state buildings in southern and western districts.

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Government-owned printing plants refused to print opposition newspapers \ufffd quelle surprise! The government-owned power company cut off the opposition media \ufffd I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked! My favorite part of the report, however, notes the regime's compliance with certain democratic expectations:

"The Election Code (Articles 30-36) obliges the State-funded media to allocate free airtime and print space to each candidate equally, and as such, permits candidates to convey their political platforms. In general, KTR, the State-funded television and radio broadcaster, adhered to its legal requirements to grant free airtime to candidates, including allocation of time for debates."

This is a lot more than I ever got running as the Republican candidate for Congress against incumbent Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco), in 1996. Free airtime and print space \ufffd no way! The editors and staff of the San Francisco Chronicle, the city's main newspaper \ufffd in effect a monopoly \ufffd would sooner blow up the Chronicle building with the entire staff inside than give me or any other Republican or Libertarian candidate a fair shake. As for a candidates' debate: surely you jest! Every effort to sponsor such an event was met with incredulity, disdain, and absolute refusal, not only on Pelosi's part, but on the part of the League of Women Voters, local television stations, and the Democratic Party bosses who were approached.

Debate? In one-party San Francisco? Never! But in far-off Kyrgyzstan, the Nancy Pelosi of the steppes deigns to debate her opponent. Are the Euro-weenies, ever eager to uplift the rest of the world to their shining vision of perfect democracy, looking for examples of conduct unbecoming the spirit of free electoral competition? Let the OSCE come to Baghdad-by-the-Bay \ufffd and I'll show them a thing or two.

enjoy :-)
thanx,
boxley

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Post #199,629 by marlowe 3/20/05 6:32:40 PM Reply	Kyrgyzstan! [link\|http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050320/ap/d88unvsg1.html\|Gezundheit.] Excerpts: At least 10,000 pro-democracy protesters stormed a police station and forced workers to flee a governor's office in Kyrgyzstan on Sunday, a government spokesman said, in the biggest demonstration since allegedly fraudulent elections last month. The government said it was ready to negotiate with the protesters who have demanded President Askar Akayev's resignation. "We hope there will be no further violence," presidential aide Abdil Seghizbayev said. Opposition leader Kurmanbek Bakiyev said talks would only be possible if Akayev himself sits down at negotiating table. "All other lower level negotiations will be just a waste of time," he said. Police fled to the roof of their station, firing shots into the air to deter the stone-throwing protesters in the southern city of Jalal-Abad, regional government spokesman Orazaly Karasartov said... The riot was the latest in a string of nationwide protests sparked by the Feb. 27 parliamentary elections in which President Akayev's allies fared overwhelmingly well. Critics claim the vote and a subsequent runoff election were marred by widespread abuses. Europe and the United States said the polls were seriously flawed, a charge denied by the government. Sunday's riot came a day after police forcibly evicted demonstrators from the governor's office in Jalal-Abad and another government building in the city of Osh. More than a dozen people, including three police officers, were injured and more than 200 demonstrators were arrested, police and civic activists said. Protesters were still occupying five other state buildings in southern and western districts. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/politics.world.html#20050320\|Angelfire link] (turn off Javascript to avoid popups) Freenet: /SSK@jbf~W~x49RjZfyJwplqwurpNmg0PAgM/marlowe/politics.world.html#20050320 [link\|http://fnmarlowe-politics-world.blogspot.com/2005/03/kyrgyzstan.html\|Comment at blogger.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #199,631 by boxley 3/20/05 6:39:17 PM Reply	Uzbekistan next! yah! All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #199,674 by Ashton 3/21/05 5:11:45 AM Reply	Morgen die Welt!
Post #200,242 by boxley 3/23/05 9:31:40 PM Reply	what actually happened [link\|http://antiwar.com/justin/\|http://antiwar.com/justin/] Government-owned printing plants refused to print opposition newspapers \ufffd quelle surprise! The government-owned power company cut off the opposition media \ufffd I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked! My favorite part of the report, however, notes the regime's compliance with certain democratic expectations: "The Election Code (Articles 30-36) obliges the State-funded media to allocate free airtime and print space to each candidate equally, and as such, permits candidates to convey their political platforms. In general, KTR, the State-funded television and radio broadcaster, adhered to its legal requirements to grant free airtime to candidates, including allocation of time for debates." This is a lot more than I ever got running as the Republican candidate for Congress against incumbent Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco), in 1996. Free airtime and print space \ufffd no way! The editors and staff of the San Francisco Chronicle, the city's main newspaper \ufffd in effect a monopoly \ufffd would sooner blow up the Chronicle building with the entire staff inside than give me or any other Republican or Libertarian candidate a fair shake. As for a candidates' debate: surely you jest! Every effort to sponsor such an event was met with incredulity, disdain, and absolute refusal, not only on Pelosi's part, but on the part of the League of Women Voters, local television stations, and the Democratic Party bosses who were approached. Debate? In one-party San Francisco? Never! But in far-off Kyrgyzstan, the Nancy Pelosi of the steppes deigns to debate her opponent. Are the Euro-weenies, ever eager to uplift the rest of the world to their shining vision of perfect democracy, looking for examples of conduct unbecoming the spirit of free electoral competition? Let the OSCE come to Baghdad-by-the-Bay \ufffd and I'll show them a thing or two. enjoy :-) thanx, boxley All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #200,317 by jb4 3/24/05 1:51:35 PM Reply	Your Diebold at work! Hey...I didn't know they had an international division! jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #200,884 by marlowe 3/28/05 12:25:40 PM Reply	Of course they do. What do you think happened in Venezuela? Do try to keep up. ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #201,138 by jb4 3/29/05 7:32:43 PM Reply	Or Chile? Or Nicaragua? Do try to keep up youself. Allow the RSS feed past your firewall.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #200,685 by boxley 3/26/05 8:28:57 PM Reply	Kyrgyzstan! revolution south central LA stype ROFL sounds like the local homies are winning [link\|http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1445917,00.html?gusrc=rss\|http://www.guardian....00.html?gusrc=rss] Early yesterday drunk and angry crowds of young men tore apart the Plaza shopping centre, clashing inside with security and other protesters. Looters filled the streets of the capital, carrying bulging shopping bags or home microwaves, and cramming TVs and fridges into their cars thanx, bill All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #200,719 by pwhysall 3/27/05 3:03:10 AM Reply	It's DEMOCRACY IN ACTION, you commie pinko pig! Oh, wait. No, it's not. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #200,790 by inthane-chan 3/27/05 8:33:20 PM Reply	</marloe>
Post #200,811 by tuberculosis 3/27/05 10:03:06 PM Reply	Splendid example! Perhaps we should follow it by demanding the resignation of our current administration too! We're going to need some torches, pitchforks, discount airline tickets to DC, tie dyed clothes, a few guitars, flowers, a big honkin PA, some weed.... "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #200,813 by pwhysall 3/27/05 10:05:35 PM Reply	Nononono. When brown people far away violently demand the resignation of their government, that's Democracy. When Americans do it in America, that's un-patriotic. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #200,815 by boxley 3/27/05 10:11:53 PM Reply	nope thats suited repos in Miami shouting counthevotes :-) All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #200,890 by marlowe 3/28/05 12:52:35 PM Reply	My, my. You folks are touchy these days. Maybe all the sour grapes disagreeing with the ol' digestion? You on the Left sure haven't had many victories of your own lately. The debate is over. Much of the continent of Asia wants democracy, and the force of the United States is there to back them up. It's not that the Left in America don't get a vote. It's that you're outvoted. That's how democracy works. Get over it. As for Asia, no, you don't get a vote. But the "brown folk" will, and you can't stop them. Afghanistan - freed Iraq - freed Ukrainia - freed Lebanon - being freed Kyrgyzstan - being freed Belarus - demanding freedom Iran - demanding freedom Mongolia - [link\|http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/03/democracy-protests-in-mongolia.html\|demanding freedom] Tibet - still demanding freedom, and we haven't forgotten Bahrain - [link\|http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5630248\|demanding freedom] Saudi Arabia - government making gestures Egypt - government making gestures North Korea - rumors of unrest It's a domino effect! If this keeps going, it'll reach southeast Asia. And then the boat people will get payback. Say, what must they be thinking in Beijing? Two of these new uprisings are bordering territory they currently control. Well, you still have oppression and chaos in South America and Africa. Take comfort in that while you may. The trend on this planet is strongly favoring democracy. The biggest continent is losing its fear of the thugs you love. And of the terrorists as well. Better get down to Berkeley and barricade yourselves in. Do you have an underground bunker, by any chance? Better dig one now. Make sure you each have a cyanide capsule and a pistol handy. (Just run down the corner to the chemist for the cyanide, right Peter? But they only sell seven pound blocks...) ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #200,891 by jake123 3/28/05 12:55:02 PM Reply	Not really, just recognising you for what you are. The fact that you don't is not our problem. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #200,900 by pwhysall 3/28/05 1:38:58 PM Reply	So. Are you going to invade? Well, of course not; you're over-stretched as it is in Iraq. Here's my list of countries that "you" (harharbasementdwelleristabattheeetc) will not invade: 1. Burma 2. Indonesia 3. North Korea 4. Iran 5. Tibet 6. China All egregious human rights violators; all sans democracy in anything more than token form; all militarily substantially more capable than Iraq. You're a coward, Marlowe. You're too much of a pussy to even put your own name against your words. But why am I bothering? You're just a troll, masturbating over us. Ugh. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #203,591 by marlowe 4/16/05 5:07:04 PM Reply	Well, if you insist on seeing it that way... perhaps you should ask yourself how and why you got into a position to be a recipient of this verbal bukakke. [link\|http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ask-yourselves-why-they-hate-you&btnG=Search\|Ask Yourselves Why]... such a versatile phrase, that. ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #200,935 by tuberculosis 3/28/05 4:51:17 PM Reply	Wonder when the US will get democracy again? "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #201,140 by jb4 3/29/05 7:34:45 PM Reply	Who's gonna invade and liberate US? Marlowe's chickenhawks?!? It is to laugh.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #201,141 by boxley 3/29/05 7:45:57 PM Reply	Pinellas Park PD All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #201,142 by jb4 3/29/05 7:49:10 PM Reply	Call me when they get to Albuquerque.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT

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