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New Too bad Ajah isn't a Greek hero
They should have just called it "HttpRequest". It's a shame that the methods are named "XMLHttpRequest", etc. because you don't have to return XML, or even HTML. I'm finding a lot of the Requests I write are best returning "OK". Take [link|http://www.aminus.org/rbre/tibia/demo/tibia.py|Tibia], the DOM webpage editor I wrote a while back. The demo is version 0.1, and "saving your work" consists of

1. Hit "Save".
2. Wait for the popup to show.
3. Wait for it to complete.
4. Stop and read the reply to make sure it was successful.
5. Close the popup.
6. Now that you're horribly out of flow, try to recall what you were doing.

The next version (which I have to finish one of these days ;) --needs undo) will be:

1. Hit "Save".
2. Go on about your business. The save button will disable if the save operation is successful (until you dirty your doc again). If something goes wrong, you get an alert.

You can do the same thing with hidden frames, of course. I guess part of the appeal of Ajax is what Todd and other teams like his are doing: building modules on top of the tech. I haven't seen much of that with IFRAMEs. But it's really more about the confluence of Ajax and RESTful design.
New Same question to you then:
Are there any FOSS toolkits out there yet?
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Yes, but I haven't used any so can't recommend one
Dojo is the only one that springs to mind (and I think Ajax is just part of their kit IIRC). Mentioned on this [link|http://www.ajaxian.com/|Ajax blog], which probably has other pointers.

Bah. Now I'm fifteen minutes late for work again. Why does responding to posts take so much longer than reading them? ;)


The Sig:
"Despite the seemingly endless necessity for doing
so, it's actually not possible to reverse-engineer intended invariants
from staring at thousands of lines of code (not in C, and not in
Python code either)."

Tim Peters on python-dev
New Thanks.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
     AJAX programming - (admin) - (21)
         Its the wave of the future - (tuberculosis) - (13)
             If that's the case... - (admin) - (10)
                 FOSS? - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                     Thanks. -NT - (admin)
                     Just started using the calendar widget - very nice -NT - (SpiceWare) - (6)
                         Lots of new JS toolkits have come out - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                             Sheesh. - (admin) - (2)
                                 Go to demos - (broomberg) - (1)
                                     Didn't see that link anywhere... -NT - (admin)
                             Seems it's "script.aculo.us", not "script.acul.ous". HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                 Thx - Fixed -NT - (tuberculosis)
                 Re: If that's the case... - (johnu)
             Holy-- You-- Son of a Blanchard - (FuManChu) - (1)
                 I have plenty of dull projects too - (tuberculosis)
         Too bad Ajah isn't a Greek hero - (FuManChu) - (3)
             Same question to you then: - (admin) - (2)
                 Yes, but I haven't used any so can't recommend one - (FuManChu) - (1)
                     Thanks. -NT - (admin)
         The quirksmode guy has an interesting take on it. - (static)
         Another article on AJAX. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
             Microsoft misses the boat. Again. - (ben_tilly)

That would be like Scott taking the Wal*Mart cruise.
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