Post #196,502
2/27/05 7:33:44 AM
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Attn: Beret-wearing elispers!
[link|http://www.wordtech-software.com/emacs.html|http://www.wordtech-...re.com/emacs.html]
Aqua Emacs.
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Post #196,504
2/27/05 8:02:38 AM
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Re: Attn: Beret-wearing elispers!
You'll probably also want this:
[link|http://www.reitter-it-media.de/software/osx_emacs.html|http://www.reitter-i...re/osx_emacs.html]
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Post #196,712
2/28/05 8:56:29 PM
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How do you run the bloody thing?
Icon in the Applications folder, yes. I double click it and get nothing. It works fine on the command line.
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Post #196,727
2/28/05 11:56:18 PM
8/21/07 5:41:34 AM
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Installation problem then
probably having issues opening some framework. Check the console logs (fire up the console app, try to launch the thing - error messages will appear there).
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Post #196,751
3/1/05 8:17:10 AM
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It runs fine from the console.
There are no error messages.
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Post #196,797
3/1/05 2:06:53 PM
8/21/07 5:42:54 AM
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That's not the console - that's the terminal
the console is a different app - it displays the system logs.
/Applications/Utilities/Console.app
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Post #196,734
3/1/05 1:40:00 AM
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Install fink...
...to get the right version of ncurses.
You'd know this if you'd looked in the crash log and then googled :-)
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Post #196,752
3/1/05 8:17:32 AM
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What crash log?
And why does an Aqua application need ncurses?
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Post #196,792
3/1/05 1:41:34 PM
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Re: What crash log?
~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Emacs.crash.log
^^ That one.
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Post #196,806
3/1/05 3:13:17 PM
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Because it already knows about regular curses!
It needs to expand its cursing to include ncurses... n being the number of libraries you install
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Post #196,735
3/1/05 1:40:53 AM
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That emacs is not Aqua Emacs.
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Post #196,753
3/1/05 8:18:41 AM
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Huh wah?
[link|http://www.wordtech-software.com/emacs.html|http://www.wordtech-...re.com/emacs.html]: Emacs/Carbon is an Aqua-native build of the powerful Emacs text editor.
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Post #196,791
3/1/05 1:40:20 PM
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The emacs you get in a console...
...is not the Aqua Emacs you just installed.
Unless of course you're going to the application directory directly and running it up.
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Post #196,798
3/1/05 2:08:33 PM
8/21/07 5:42:55 AM
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What was the invocation string you used?
If you just say 'emacs' you'll get the terminal based one.
If you say /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/somethingorother/someexecutable then you're running the actual app.
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Post #196,824
3/1/05 5:06:42 PM
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Wow, Macs *are* more user friendly
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Post #196,825
3/1/05 5:10:36 PM
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"alias" is your friend...
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Post #196,827
3/1/05 5:20:23 PM
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Most people just click the pretty icon ;-)
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Post #196,844
3/1/05 7:42:31 PM
8/21/07 5:43:31 AM
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Yes they are
The long path is to enable fat binaries - remembering that Cocoa has run on Motorola 68k's, Intel x86's, Sparcs, and now PowerPC's.
The Finder uses directory wrappers - basically directories that have certain extensions look to the user like single files. So Emacs.app is a directory but it looks like a file to the user. Inside it has the icon file - usually as a .tiff, and below Contents are different binaries for different architectures. There's also a resources folder with common stuff including any libs or frameworks and additional subdirectories for localized resources. All very unixy - no gimmicky resource forks like the old macos.
None of this is visible to the casual user - he just double clicks the pretty icon and the thing opens. Or you can say 'open filename' and the launch service will do the right thing.
However, when something refuses to launch, you may wish to run the program from the command line - now you need to know which executable exactly because 'open' will redirect IO to the console just like the Finder does.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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