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New Publishing a directory on the web
("directory" in the sense of names, phones, addresses and so on)

Including things like search by keyword, browse by topic, may be eventually search by proximity.

A few hundred entries, eventually may be a few thousand.

Needs to run on OS X for deployment and on Windows for development.

Should be easy to install initially and easy to deploy new versions.

What is the simplest thing that will work?

I've got zero experience with Web dev (well, I played with Zope at some point). It will be a bit of learning experience for me...
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New You want a product or a project?
If you want a project to learn web programming, lots of us can give pointers. If you just need something that works, I don't have any experience with one. I'd just be checking SourceForge, and you can do that.

So which are you looking for?
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New I want to get a job done.
If there is a product to do it, it's OK. If I need to code, so much the better.
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New What do you mean by "topic"?
Give me a schema and (if it's not *too* complex) I could write one for you on top of my web app framework + ORM. Haven't tried it on OSX, but it *is* Python--I'm willing to give it a go if you are. I already have a directory page for my company, so it would be mostly stripping my existing app down to meet your needs.

How soon do you need it? How pretty do you need it? ;)
New The usual schema
of business name, address, phone, contact person (if available), web site and e-mail (if available), keywords to search, one or more classifications to browse. No normalization intended for now.

I don't know how pretty I want it... I do know that I'd like to do it myself. Would you advise downloading your toolkit and trying?
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New You can download it, sure.
[link|http://www.aminus.org/rbre/python|http://www.aminus.org/rbre/python]

The webapp framework is "Cation" and the ORM is "Dejavu". As I said, I haven't tested it on OSX, so it's a bit selfish of me to ask you to test it for me ;) You might want to try Todd's Seaside route first. Meh.

Here's a screenshot of my current directory page:
[link|http://www.aminus.org/dirsample.jpg|http://www.aminus.org/dirsample.jpg]
New Seaside+Postgres
[link|http://www.seaside.st|http://www.seaside.st]

Runs on anything. App dev is really easy.

I have a cooked image ready to go - I can help you with it some.



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Feb. 23, 2005, 12:56:27 AM EST
New Yeah, that's what I was thinking about, after seeing your
posts on Seaside earlier.

Could you contact me at my IWETHEY user name at snet.net ?
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New I'll send you something this evening
I don't have access to my home machine just now.

You might go and download Squeak VM's while you wait.

For [link|http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/|Mac OS X] get the [link|http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/devel/dist/Squeak-vm-3.7b-5.dmg|3.7b5 version] and you also need the [link|http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/unix/release/Squeak-3.sources.tar.gz|sources] file. I will send you an image and changes file pair this evening.

For Winders - get [link|ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/Smalltalk/Squeak/3.7/win/Squeak3.7-current-win-full.zip|this one].




"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Feb. 23, 2005, 02:49:41 PM EST
New Thanks
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New Re: Publishing a directory on the web
One option that is getting a lot of attention right now is the Rails framework. Nice, clean OO language, simple MVC architecture. Start by watching the 10 minute demo ([link|http://media.nextangle.com/rails/rails_setup.mov|http://media.nextang...s/rails_setup.mov]) where David creates a blog from scratch in just 10 minutes (no ... really). If that looks interesting, checkout:

* Main web site: [link|http://www.rubyonrails.org/|http://www.rubyonrails.org/]
* IRC: irc://irc.freenode.org/rubyonrails
* Sites created with Rails:
** [link|http://tadalist.com/|http://tadalist.com/]
** [link|http://43things.com/|http://43things.com/]
** [link|http://www.snowdevil.ca/|http://www.snowdevil.ca/]
** [link|http://onestepback.org:3030/project/list|http://onestepback.org:3030/project/list] (my one and only public Rails project).

Seriously, the project you describe sounds only a bit more complicated than the example given in the 10 minute video.
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     Publishing a directory on the web - (Arkadiy) - (10)
         You want a product or a project? - (drewk) - (1)
             I want to get a job done. - (Arkadiy)
         What do you mean by "topic"? - (FuManChu) - (2)
             The usual schema - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                 You can download it, sure. - (FuManChu)
         Seaside+Postgres - (tuberculosis) - (3)
             Yeah, that's what I was thinking about, after seeing your - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                 I'll send you something this evening - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                     Thanks -NT - (Arkadiy)
         Re: Publishing a directory on the web - (JimWeirich)

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