Windows XP Pro doesn't answer pings even

Post #192,685 by Andrew Grygus 2/2/05 4:01:27 PM 2/2/05 4:08:20 PM Reply	Windows XP Pro doesn't answer pings even Client got an HP Pavilion with XP Pro on it. The network works (I'm posting from that machine now) but the network card doesn't answer pings and the machine is "path not found" from the Windows 2000 machines. Windows firewall isn't running (and won't start either). Anyone have any theories? There's an icon for the machine seen by other machines but it's apparently left over from earlier because clicking on it yields "path not found". [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus Feb. 2, 2005, 04:08:20 PM EST Expand All History
Post #192,722 by jake123 2/2/05 7:08:46 PM Reply	Have you tried the arp trick? To wit: set up an explicit entry in another machine's arp table pointing to it? Hell, sometimes "arp -d " (which in xpland means delete all arp table entries) manages to wake my xp machine up here when it decides not to handle connectedness properly. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #192,725 by inthane-chan 2/2/05 7:29:08 PM Reply	Post output of "ipconfig /all" "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
Post #192,757 by Andrew Grygus 2/2/05 10:04:48 PM Reply	Don't have that in front of me now, but . . . . . . checked it enough times I know exactly what it said for the network card: DHCP off IP 192.168.1.44 Mask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 DNS 64.105.132.250 64.105.166.322 Disabled the built in and installed a separate card with address 192.168.1.43 - same result - no answer to ping. Now here's what I think happened. This machine had Windows XP home on it but was purchased with a Windows XP Pro upgrade installed - which upgrade was not needed but due to the ignorance of people advising the purchaser. This upgrade was installed with all the pre-installed Norton crap fully enabled, including Norton Personal Firewall. NPF was later de-installed. In my experience, doing any system work with Norton anything installed is a recipe for disaster. NPF was deinstalled at my recommendation in a phone conversation with the owner as inapropriate for the machines intended use. I was at that time unaware the Windows XP Pro was an upgrade to home (though I did wonder why NPF would be on an XP Pro machine). [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #192,764 by jbrabeck 2/2/05 10:32:35 PM Reply	Just tried Wife has XP Home --- No answer to ping Daughter has 2000 -- answers ping Laptop 2000 - answers ping Server Linux - answers ping It may be a XP Home issue. Good luck A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #192,781 by drewk 2/3/05 12:17:35 AM Reply	Speaking of Norton crap I just spent way too long helping a friend of my wife with her WinXP box. She said it's gotten significantly slower the past couple of months. She's had it a couple of years. (Must have gotten it when XP was still fairly new.) I followed the directions on the [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Know/WinXPLockdown\|WinXPLockdown] page, and after downloading everything -- btw next time I download at work and burn a disk, damn but AOL is slow -- I started installing. Norton started popping up every time I ran another scan. Finally got all the rest installed and Norton turned off. The last of the full-system scans was still running when I left, but it still felt really slow -- 15-20 seconds to open a menu the first time, etc. How do I identify what's making performance suck so much? I already ran all the scans and only found a few things to nuke. Do I just have to go through the process list and google each of them one-by-one to see if they need to be there? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #192,788 by Andrew Grygus 2/3/05 1:16:52 AM Reply	Well, Norton will make it slow right there . . . . since it's resident, and its scans are absolutely glacial, and its "fix" stage often makes no sense at all. This is pure crap marketed up the kazoo and the peasants buy it like it was "moral values". When I put better products on, next time I see the machine it's got Norton back on it. I guess the fact that Norton is expensive makes them feel it's better. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #192,792 by Steve Lowe 2/3/05 1:36:50 AM Reply	Here's a little problem 64.105.166.322 I know you know that the octets can't be over 255. I know that doesn't answer the ping issue...but still. -- Steve
Post #192,795 by CRConrad 2/3/05 2:14:34 AM Reply	They don't "wrap around" (so 322 would be = 67) ?
Post #192,805 by Andrew Grygus 2/3/05 6:27:57 AM Reply	Ooops, type - is .122 - but that part works. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #192,833 by inthane-chan 2/3/05 10:45:05 AM Reply	You've probably got the long and the short of it. Norton == !Scottish. "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
Post #192,850 by andread 2/3/05 11:57:55 AM Reply	SP2? w/ sp2 the firewall runs by default and ping is not enabled unless you go in to the advanced settings and check the box that says something about echo A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #192,873 by inthane-chan 2/3/05 12:59:04 PM Reply	He specifically stated firewall is disabled. <EOM>
Post #192,921 by andread 2/3/05 4:33:57 PM Reply	Re: He specifically stated firewall is disabled. <EOM> The way windows is I suspect it is running and can't be stopped Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #192,922 by pwhysall 2/3/05 4:35:17 PM 2/3/05 4:35:44 PM Reply	Nope. I had this specific issue - unpingable XP box - and disabling the firewall did indeed allow pingage. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! Edited by pwhysall Feb. 3, 2005, 04:35:44 PM EST Expand All History
Post #192,928 by Andrew Grygus 2/3/05 5:05:34 PM Reply	Well, it claims it isn't running and can't start. It had been replaced by Norton Personal Firewall at HP when they installed Windows XP Home, so they must have disabled it then (you wouldn't want two firewalls running, would you?). [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #193,008 by Silverlock 2/4/05 8:30:25 AM Reply	No vpn running? Check running services. A vpn process can have exactly this effect. ----------------------------------------- "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." -- H. L. Mencken
Post #192,875 by Andrew Grygus 2/3/05 1:00:34 PM Reply	SP2 Yes, but . . . . . the firewall is not running and it won't start - says it can't find something - don't remember what. I'm going to wipe Windows, install XP Home without all the trash an HP computer comes with, upgrade with their XP Pro upgrade disk, test, and if it passes, reinstall QuickBooks 2005 and Office 2003 (the only desired applications). [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #192,966 by drewk 2/4/05 12:16:36 AM Reply	Just spent a second night with an HP XP box The one last night was painful: 1.1G 128M AOL dial-up ... sloooooowwwwww. The one tonight was at least newer: 3G 512M DSL. Followed the advice from the [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/Know/WinXPLockdown\|twiki]. Will see if the first one recovers, and the second one stays clean. Funny thing tonight, the guy is an accountant. After the AV stuff I installed Firefox and the tabbrowser extension. Showed him how it works. Showed how it deals with popups. He told me that at work -- an accounting firm -- he keeps getting popups for online poker, even when he's not using IE for anything. Two "IT guys" have looked at it without luck. I suspect this is typical of small businesses. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #193,041 by Andrew Grygus 2/4/05 12:57:59 PM Reply	Not typical - universal. If there's an Internet connection the computers are ifected with parasites. There's big money and venture capitalists behind this stuff now, so I'm telling my clients that if the current trend continues it will be impossible to use a Windows computer on the Internet by the end of the year. So far they give me blank looks and none are asking about contingency plans. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #193,057 by Another Scott 2/4/05 2:31:31 PM Reply	Is a $50 hardware firewall good enough to stop this? (new thread) Created as new thread #193056 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=193056\|Is a $50 hardware firewall good enough to stop this?]

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