Post #185,519
11/29/04 11:38:37 PM
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Desktop publishing...
What do people use? My mom is considering a Mac to replace a PC that got fried by lightning. She does brochures, stuff like that.
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-scott anderson
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Post #185,520
11/29/04 11:54:00 PM
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There's lots
I understand that [link|http://guide.apple.com/action.lasso?-database=macosguide&-layout=cgi_detail&-response=/ussearch/detail.html&prodkey=3299&-search|Quark Xpress] is an industry standard. There's [link|http://guide.apple.com/action.lasso?-database=MacOSGuide&-layout=cgi_search&-search&-response=ussearch/hitlist.html&-maxrecords=20&-noresultserror=uscategories/noresultscat.html&cfc=639|many such apps] available, though. The mac really made a name for itself in the publishing and printing industries early on.
(I did some database work for a book publisher in the late 80's, so that knowledege is quite dated now..)
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Post #185,551
11/30/04 11:22:30 AM
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Yikes!
$1K for Quark XPress :-)
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-scott anderson
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Post #185,835
12/2/04 11:56:44 AM
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Man of your means, etc :-)
Peter
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Post #185,836
12/2/04 11:57:59 AM
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My mother is the one purchasing...
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-scott anderson
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Post #185,839
12/2/04 12:05:37 PM
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You tight-fisted git.
After all she's done for you, etc.
Peter
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Post #185,525
11/30/04 1:03:33 AM
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I still love PageMaker
I haven't used it since 5.0, and only used Quark briefly. But seven years later there are still things I wish I could do.
One thing for her/you to consider is the difference between a DTP app and a word processing app. To something like Word or WordPerfect, each file is a single document. You may have graphics and text boxes, but it's all part of the same doc. If you add text to a paragraph it reflows everything after.
With a real DTP app every item is a separate document. You can delete/resize/move any item without affecting any other item, and you can have one document span multiple text areas. The "document" you're working with is a set of pages, and you place items on those pages.
If you've never worked with one yourself, supporting her will require using it some yourself. Your assumptions about how a word processor work won't be relevant.
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Post #185,552
11/30/04 11:22:48 AM
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I'll have her take a look at it.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #185,560
11/30/04 12:29:12 PM
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Still have PageMaker v5
Before Adobe decided to buy aldus and make improvements.
I hate Pagemaker for all the tweaks they put in.
By far the best version I ever used and still use is version 5.
It was NEW when Windows for WorkGroups was Brand New. I still say that you cannot do a better layout interface. They just had it right.
Then Adobe stepped in and improved it.
Sure, current Pagemaker is great, but I still prefer the spartan interface Aldus just made work and work well. You'd just have to see it.
Scribus is about as close to that as I have found, but it works a bit differently... very nice though, installs on Debian just fine from the archive.
Quark Express is another of those programs where "Earlier Versions were better". Although I do have to say I'd much rather use Quark Express the Page Maker right now.
In the end, they mostly all do a fine job. Heck, I like LyX myself for many things and it just works.
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Post #185,563
11/30/04 12:37:00 PM
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They definitely steepened the learning curve
Professionals doing creative marketing or magazine layout use everything it's got to offer. Most people, include me when I was laying out newspapers, need the same 8 tools for 99% of what they do. I think trying to make the PageMaker interface look as much like PhotoShop as possible was a mistake. They're different tools for different purposes.
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Post #185,628
11/30/04 5:53:35 PM
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I have some desktop publishing types clients
they use adobe products although I doubt they paid retail for it.,
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Post #185,650
11/30/04 8:22:56 PM
8/21/07 6:12:24 AM
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Adobe InDesign
[link|http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/main.html|http://www.adobe.com...ndesign/main.html]
This is the new kid on the block and its gaining fast.
Quark has had major issues with late and buggy updates (OS X support took forever to come out).
PageMaker is owned by Adobe and is basically deprecated.
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Post #185,664
11/30/04 9:54:16 PM
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Mmh. Makes we wish I had a school ID :)
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Post #185,672
12/1/04 12:01:36 AM
8/21/07 6:12:41 AM
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Easy to get
go register for a class, get your id, drop, get a refund.
The student versions typically come with no support and are often not upgradeable.
They are cheap though!
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