Post #185,435
11/29/04 4:34:48 PM
8/21/07 6:07:13 AM
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That would be the exceptional case
Different data point - when I use a Mac, things mostly work but occasionally there are problems. My linux experience is things mostly have problems but things occasionally work.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,437
11/29/04 4:36:10 PM
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*grin* see edited post above
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning, As hopeless as it seems in the middle, Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #185,452
11/29/04 5:39:57 PM
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I would like to offer you the same evidence.
My experiences in both OSX and Debian Linux are equivalent on the rate of failure to success. (For me really any Linux variant)
Sure, it took me a while to stop suckling on the command-line teat, but I did do it. But that was a while ago... and the fond memories have faded to a general warm-feeling inside.
It is actually a toss up as to wether or not Windows will work after an installation of said game, or of said Spyware, Adware, OS updates... anything, it all depends on the moon phases and what the tea leaves look like. For those with a sacrifical bent, how many fertile chickens you slaughter and drain the blood from and burn in the fire.
Linux and MAC OSX both have a very robust set of features that can be turned off and on when and how you like. You are just more familiar with MAC by choice, Windows because of the 92% number.
I am more familiar with Linux in General (love that Debian Sid) than I am with MAC OSX, but there again I know Windows because of that 92% number.
So, in effect you are telling me, the reason I don't like MAC OSX is because I don't understand it... I am telling you you don't like Linux because you don't understand it.
Sure, I love Linux as much as you Love OSX, effectively we are both zealots... just to different beholdings.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,470
11/29/04 7:05:46 PM
8/21/07 6:07:58 AM
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Then tell me how to install firefox
and I'll shut up.
No I can't install debian - this is a corporate box.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,491
11/29/04 8:32:13 PM
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Holy Crap.
Look at the [link|http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/system-requirements.html|system requirements]: Linux
Software RequirementsPlease note that Linux distributors may provide packages for your distribution which have different requirements.- Linux kernel - 2.2.14 with the following libraries or packages minimums:
- glibc 2.3.2
- XFree86-3.3.6
- gtk+2.0
- fontconfig (also known as xft)
- libstdc++5
- Firefox has been tested on Red Hat Linux 8.0 and later
Minimum Hardware- Intel Pentium II or AMD K6-III+ 233 MHz CPU (Recommended: 500MHz or greater)
- 64 MB RAM (Recommended: 128 MB RAM or greater)
- 52 MB hard drive space
Seems they don't believe in static linking anymore. And you'll never get xft/fontconfig on enigma, GTK v2.0 is waaaay newer than what you have on your machine. I'll bet you have gtk v1.2 on that machine. And, no, I don't care about you putting Debian on it. It would be nice if you could though. To check to see what version you have try: rpm -qa | grep -i -e gtk -e glibc -e libstdc -e XFree -e xft -e fontconfigBet you find that you are woefully out of date.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,494
11/29/04 8:42:48 PM
8/21/07 6:08:16 AM
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Looks pretty grim
only XFree86 is new enough.
I'll have to start digging in the prod group and see what is in production (we need to mirror production - ya know?)
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,505
11/29/04 9:59:28 PM
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If they say...
Put on whatever you want...
Try the new [link|http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/.pool/warty-install-i386.iso|Ubuntu v4.1 Warty]
I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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