Post #184,625
11/20/04 7:36:34 PM
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Email client choices
I've been using KMail for about 5 years. I use popfile for my Baysian spam filtering. Popfile dies and needs to be restarted occasionally, but it usually works for me.
As I'm going to a new system, using Debian, I'm wondering if it is time to consider email client alternatives. The Mozilla email program is one possibility, Evolution the other. Any suggestions, or should I just stick with Kmail?
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Post #184,626
11/20/04 8:17:25 PM
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Well...
For Bayes spam filtering, I use spamassassin. Coupled with my exim4 mail server, everything simply works (now that I've removed Rules du Jour -- but that's a resources problem on the server.)
For mail stuff, I use Evolution, but I use Evolution 1.4. For now, I refuse to upgrade to 1.5. They've added crap to the screen and not provided a way to remove it in the preferences (I forget what that "crap" is, but it's on the lower left corner.) Additionally, the way that it handles moving messages from one folder to another has changed, and when I moved stuff to my spam folder, it wouldn't advance to the next message. Couldn't find a pref for that, either. So it got uninstalled. Evo 1.4 worked like a charm.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #184,634
11/20/04 9:34:24 PM
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Evolution
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #184,663
11/21/04 1:17:50 AM
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Evolution.
Peter
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Post #184,680
11/21/04 8:43:03 AM
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Creationism.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #184,682
11/21/04 9:36:35 AM
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Genesis-ism.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #184,698
11/21/04 3:20:28 PM
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T-Bird
I have had Evolution (1.x) stop working on two Debian machines. The problem is apparently related to the amount of mail in the store. After several reoccurnces is switched to Thunderbird. Haven't had a problem with is since v0.6.0
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Post #184,699
11/21/04 4:01:49 PM
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Which versions and how much mail?
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #184,805
11/22/04 1:26:02 PM
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Re: Which versions and how much mail?
v1.0.5 and v1.0.8. The successors needed Gnome 2 and I wasn't about to go there. For my machine, the details are:
72 MB in the Inbox (260 msgs), 73 in a sub folder (204 msgs). This now seems rather odd. Some of the messages did include rather large image attachments, but those don't account for the above numbers. The index files are similarly bloated.
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Post #184,815
11/22/04 2:10:18 PM
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That's odd.
I'm running v1.4.6 right now, and my inbox is currently 205 MB (4215 messages.) I also have a spam folder that's 36 MB (3415 messages.)
It takes a good 10-15 seconds for Evo to fully start up, but once it's fully functional, it's good to go.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #184,718
11/21/04 9:01:22 PM
11/21/04 9:04:15 PM
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Wow.
I am using Evolution version 2.0.2
I average 3000-7000 messages a week.
I save about 50% of it by default. I have 15,000 messages in one folder and 35,000 in another. Probably another 20,000 in about 25 other folders.
It doesn't even stutter. After about a 20 second startup.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
Edited by folkert
Nov. 21, 2004, 09:04:15 PM EST
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Post #184,703
11/21/04 6:22:32 PM
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I tried both
T-bird and Evolution,
Neither seem to give me the option to import my old kmail historical email.
Any ideas?
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Post #184,704
11/21/04 6:29:10 PM
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Check the MEPIS forums.
[link|http://www.mepis.org/node/view/1411|Here] - especially the last 2 posts.
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #184,706
11/21/04 6:44:44 PM
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Ahh, screw it.
I've had enough disrupting projects this weekend.
New system, new OS, new version of Perl, move very old version of Oracle to new system, find new perl does not work with it, track down old DBI interface to use rather than upgrade Oracle, learned about fonts, setup a dual monitor config with different cards and drivers, setup the latest Perl DBD::Proxy for ODBC access on my XP laptop when I found out my old one on my W98 box no longer talked to my new Debian/Perl environment, (there has to be some more).
I just went into Kmail on the Debian system.
It's good enough.
Thanks anyway.
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