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New Western hypocrisy
[link|http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/502510.html| Don't learn from the Americans]

"...powerful evidence of the hypocrisy that makes it permissible for the Americans, and other strong nations, to do that that is forbidden to others. If the war on international terror means that they will be engaging in hard-hitting combat, they should at least not be preaching morality to others.

This same conclusion is relevant regarding actions taken by the French in the Ivory Coast in recent days. They came to rescue citizens of France and other states from the fury of a wild mob and, in the course of their mission, killed local civilians without restraint. The extensive harm done to civilians in both instances did not even come in response to an attack - neither by Iraqis nor Africans - against population centers in the U.S. or France.
...
The method employed by the Americans calls for using warplanes and artillery in urban areas. This did not start in Falluja. The American armored division that was deployed in Baghdad used the same method. The Americans found themselves in trouble after failing to quell the insurgents in several cities as the date of Iraqi elections drew nearer. Their answer: using an "iron fist" in populated areas. When the Russians did this in Chechnya, President Clinton sharply criticized them. "

New That might be...
... if Clinton were President right now.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Give me a break
Last I checked the State Department has not stopped issuing their annual Human Rights reports, their pious statements about Israel and the Palestinians etc. The US is doing things in Iraq which if any other country were doing would be teh target of fierce criticism from the US Government.
New Way to miss the point.
You can hardly blame one administration for the actions of another.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Yup - You can only blame the American people.

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New 51% of them at least.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Didn't miss the point at all
The point is that the US government acts in the do what I say not do what I do manner. It has nothing to do with which administration is in power. If anyone else in the world did what the US was doing in Fallujah you would hear the State Department talking about excessive use of force, the need to minimize civilian casualties etc. Do you remember Jenin in 2002? What did the current administration say then? What is happening in Falluja is much worse then anything that happened in jenin.

The same thing goes for WMD's. The US is opposed to anyone else making nuclear weapons, yet, the US is working on new types of nuclear weapons. Whats good for the gander is good for teh goose.
New 2002 was Bush
And so are the missiles. So yes, you did miss the point. You've obviously made up your mind on this so I won't bother pointing it out again.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Please explain what you meant
New So who was right, Bush or Clinton?
New "Right" ??
Or did you mean Righteous?

We have here a(nother) religious zealot, one possessed-of one of those capital-B Beliefs that, he is Doing Gawd's Will. He is attempting to bend to His (Gawd's?) Will: ~ 23 millions -- most of whom have picked one of about 4 Other Gawds, whose 'Will' they shall die/kill to execute. Too.

That's about Five (One-True) Gawds, if I can add.. and if it is fair to list a separate Gawd for each duelling sect as claims to possess The Only True One\ufffd.



bluke, What The Fuck Did You Expect Would Happen?
(You heard the same bafflegab as we each heard, over four years)

And you know that this is the doing of a mere handful of people who are directing this witless man and whose propaganda campaign incorporated perfectly the time-tested principles of Herr G\ufffdbbels / matched his lust for Power at any cost / superseded the best that Herr G. could accomplish - via that leverage of modern techno improvements to the massive repetition of doublespeak.


You were expecting next, Wisdom?

{sheesh}



Here's [link|http://www.salon.com/opinion/letters/2004/11/18/fallujah/| another].


..and Gawd-fearing people loved to diss 'Gawdless Communism' as an enigma wrapped in a conundrum. You bet your sweet bippy, they did.
cha cha cha.
Expand Edited by Ashton Nov. 18, 2004, 07:02:02 AM EST
     Western hypocrisy - (bluke) - (10)
         That might be... - (admin) - (9)
             Give me a break - (bluke) - (8)
                 Way to miss the point. - (admin) - (7)
                     Yup - You can only blame the American people. -NT - (imric) - (1)
                         51% of them at least. -NT - (admin)
                     Didn't miss the point at all - (bluke) - (2)
                         2002 was Bush - (admin) - (1)
                             Please explain what you meant -NT - (bluke)
                     So who was right, Bush or Clinton? -NT - (bluke) - (1)
                         "Right" ?? - (Ashton)

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