well actually there are, but they usually charge 90% - 80% of retail prices for used Macs. Unless they are on sale or something. There was one place that had reasonable prices, but they never answered their phone and I left messages on their voicemail and they never called me back. I'll have to look them up again and maybe pay them a visit, unless they raised their prices? I get that from some used Mac places, by the time I reach them, the sale is over.