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Post #175,788
by mmoffitt
9/22/04 4:06:57 PM
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New Huh?
Why does he have "less rights"? I don't see anything in the Bill of Rights that restricts rights to citizens. I'm not sure (and if I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll be corrected) but I think that the courts have generally worked on the premise that Constitutional Rights are not restricted to citizens.
bcnu,
Mikem

"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
Post #175,792
by ChrisR
9/22/04 4:27:21 PM
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New Constitutional Rights
Are restricted to foreigners that are physically in this country. Foreigners outside of our borders have no judicially protected rights whatsoever - witness the military base that the Cuban's have so kindly let us use to hold prisoners for safe-keeping.
Post #175,797
by bepatient
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9/22/04 4:47:48 PM
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New There are differences in legal treatements.
And challenges under the BoR protections are less likely to succeed for non-citizens.

So, you are partially correct. The BoR itself doesn't distinguish but sometimes the Judicial system does (and also the legislature)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
Post #175,891
by mmoffitt
9/23/04 10:37:24 AM
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New And of course, the DHS interprets for all of us ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem

"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
     Cat Stevens a terrorist! - (jb4) - (54) - Sept. 22, 2004, 09:50:06 AM EDT
         Well I do think its an over-reaction. - (bepatient) - (27) - Sept. 22, 2004, 09:55:15 AM EDT
             I don't think you get it - (jake123) - (11) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:27:05 AM EDT
                 Your "Faith-based Initiative" at work. - (jb4) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:36:14 AM EDT
                     non sequiter -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:51:02 AM EDT
                         Think about it for a minute, BeeP... - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:18:47 PM EDT
                             I know where you're going - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:27:32 PM EDT
                 And I think its an overreaction. - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:50:11 AM EDT
                     I wasn't particularly criticising you - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:20:22 AM EDT
                         The real double standard - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:40:06 AM EDT
                     I like how you indict him - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:54:39 AM EDT
                         The fed claims to have that proof. - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:55:57 AM EDT
                             They do? - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:00:34 PM EDT
                                 Thats how he got on the list. - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:35:07 PM EDT
             Cackle - (pwhysall) - (10) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:01:43 AM EDT
                 Ohh! OK...I got it now..............................;-\ufffd -NT - (jb4) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:21:55 AM EDT
                 oopsie. Something fishy about that one. -NT - (bepatient) - (8) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:35:30 AM EDT
                     I shan't carp on about it. -NT - (pwhysall) - (7) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:00:21 PM EDT
                         Your wit has me floundering to find a retort. -NT - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:33:58 PM EDT
                             Pardon? My herring is going. Speak up! -NT - (pwhysall) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:34:56 PM EDT
                                 Guess I won't ask you to tuna piano then. -NT - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:41:30 PM EDT
                                     I could, but you'd have to bring it to my plaice. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:49:10 PM EDT
                                         I'm a shrimp...so I'll need kelp getting it there. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:04:20 PM EDT
                                             I think I'm the sole person keeping this thing going. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:35:19 PM EDT
                                                 Abalone! -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:52:38 PM EDT
             Not to mention all those suicide bombers that were inspired - (ChrisR) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2004, 10:58:51 AM EDT
                 Thought you were gonna use Peace Train. -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:40:40 AM EDT
                     I like the more obscure references. -NT - (ChrisR) - Sept. 22, 2004, 12:15:49 PM EDT
             When your money ends up supporting terrorists... - (GBert) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:30:42 AM EDT
         I feel so much safer now... - (Silverlock) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:16:43 AM EDT
             Rather have Eddie on the fly list... - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:41:40 AM EDT
         Once again - (Nightowl) - Sept. 22, 2004, 11:26:01 AM EDT
         "I'm being followed by a NeoCon-shadow." -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:11:26 PM EDT
             Everybody sing along... - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 01:28:58 PM EDT
                 Hehehe - (jake123) - Sept. 22, 2004, 03:04:06 PM EDT
         He ain't a citizen anymore - (lincoln) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2004, 03:13:13 PM EDT
             Huh? - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2004, 04:06:57 PM EDT
                 Constitutional Rights - (ChrisR) - Sept. 22, 2004, 04:27:21 PM EDT
                 There are differences in legal treatements. - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 04:47:48 PM EDT
                     And of course, the DHS interprets for all of us ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 23, 2004, 10:37:24 AM EDT
         But.. but... he wrote all those nice hippie songs! - (marlowe) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2004, 05:42:47 PM EDT
             Yeah, he did. What have you done? - (jake123) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:22:23 AM EDT
             Okie from /dev/null here - move along -NT - (deSitter) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:23:32 AM EDT
         Cat Stevens IS the next best thing to a terrorist! - (andread) - (9) - Sept. 23, 2004, 01:54:22 PM EDT
             So have you: got much Microsoft, Walmart stuff? -NT - (Ashton) - (8) - Sept. 23, 2004, 06:26:09 PM EDT
                 Re: So have you: got much Microsoft, Walmart stuff? - (daemon) - Sept. 23, 2004, 07:14:44 PM EDT
                 Re: So have you: got much Microsoft, Walmart stuff? - (andread) - (6) - Sept. 23, 2004, 07:33:06 PM EDT
                     From "Nothing to fear but fear itself" to "Nothing but fear" -NT - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 24, 2004, 09:33:50 AM EDT
                         fear? - (andread) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2004, 06:19:05 PM EDT
                             Sound about right to me -NT - (hnick) - Sept. 24, 2004, 06:21:29 PM EDT
                             My retort was too oblique - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2004, 09:19:27 PM EDT
                             Question. - (Silverlock) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2004, 09:26:11 PM EDT
                                 perhaps I should have said - (andread) - Sept. 26, 2004, 02:55:38 PM EDT
         Re: Cat Stevens a terrorist! - (orion) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:17:43 PM EDT
         Interesting diary on K5 - (orion) - Sept. 24, 2004, 12:55:58 AM EDT

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