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Post #173,828
by broomberg
9/12/04 10:51:12 PM
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New But that is what I use it for!
A WYSIWYG screen builder.
The rest is mostly an annoyance.
Post #173,834
by drewk
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9/13/04 12:08:18 AM
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New How about this
GUI IDEs are greta for building GUI interfaces. I think we can mostly agree on that.

Now, how about for building the second and third tier business logic?

Note:

There's a macro for vim that offers function parameter pop-ups, just like IDE auto-completion. That one I don't use.

There's a macro for function folding. That one I use.

The syntax hilighting is more fine-grained than in any IDE I've used, and we've got Zend studio, by the people who make PHP.

The one thing I've seen in the IDE that I haven't found (yet) for vim is that it will follow the include path to find functions/variables defined outside the current file.
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #173,836
by FuManChu
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9/13/04 12:33:42 AM
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New Mostly.
I have yet to find a reasonable webapp GUI builder.

The Sig:
"Despite the seemingly endless necessity for doing
so, it's actually not possible to reverse-engineer intended invariants
from staring at thousands of lines of code (not in C, and not in
Python code either)."

Tim Peters on python-dev
     Do you use an IDE? - (bluke) - (63) - Sept. 12, 2004, 09:02:40 AM EDT
         I use emacs - (admin) - (17) - Sept. 12, 2004, 09:43:15 AM EDT
             That was just 1 example - (bluke) - (9) - Sept. 12, 2004, 10:10:02 AM EDT
                 Re: That was just 1 example - (admin) - (8) - Sept. 12, 2004, 11:56:29 AM EDT
                     What I meant was ... - (bluke) - (4) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:07:39 PM EDT
                         Re: What I meant was ... - (admin) - (3) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:10:39 PM EDT
                             I never really used Emacs ... - (bluke) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:17:03 PM EDT
                                 No argument there. - (admin) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:19:08 PM EDT
                                 But if they're using VIM and calling it VI - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 12, 2004, 02:28:09 PM EDT
                     I find the prefix to be distracting - (bluke) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:11:09 PM EDT
                         That would work as well. -NT - (admin) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:14:43 PM EDT
                         Use leading underscores for ivars - less distracting - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:29:38 AM EDT
             Little features won me over - (bluke) - (6) - Sept. 12, 2004, 10:22:58 AM EDT
                 Re: Little features won me over - (admin) - (5) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:06:34 PM EDT
                     I am only doing Java now - (bluke) - (3) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:14:28 PM EDT
                         Re: I am only doing Java now - (admin) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:17:32 PM EDT
                             I do browse jars ... - (bluke) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:28:50 PM EDT
                                 How about embedded ones? - (admin) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:29:37 PM EDT
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:50:20 PM EDT
         I'm bouncing back and forth on this. - (broomberg) - (36) - Sept. 12, 2004, 11:16:06 AM EDT
             There is no question ... - (bluke) - (30) - Sept. 12, 2004, 11:41:07 AM EDT
                 OK - (broomberg) - (29) - Sept. 12, 2004, 11:50:05 AM EDT
                     Not that I am selling Intellij ... - (bluke) - (28) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:02:54 PM EDT
                         Doubt it - (broomberg) - (27) - Sept. 12, 2004, 12:39:55 PM EDT
                             Most of my typing is inserting text. - (admin) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2004, 04:47:28 PM EDT
                                 ed is the standard text editor. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2004, 04:57:21 PM EDT
                                     ? -NT - (admin) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:14:41 PM EDT
                             Modes are evil. - (FuManChu) - (23) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:23:42 PM EDT
                                 ? -NT - (pwhysall) - (14) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:24:28 PM EDT
                                     ? RTFA - (FuManChu) - (13) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:25:41 PM EDT
                                         ? -NT - (pwhysall) - (8) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:29:00 PM EDT
                                             Love ya man -NT - (FuManChu) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:36:17 PM EDT
                                             Type faster, Barry! :D -NT - (FuManChu) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:38:50 PM EDT
                                                 Huh? -NT - (broomberg) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:45:30 PM EDT
                                             I did RTFA - (broomberg) - (4) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:44:09 PM EDT
                                                 ? - (pwhysall) - (3) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:51:15 PM EDT
                                                     ? - (FuManChu) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:55:38 PM EDT
                                                         Footpedal - (altmann) - Sept. 13, 2004, 03:07:28 AM EDT
                                                     Yup - (broomberg) - Sept. 12, 2004, 06:04:15 PM EDT
                                         ? -NT - (admin) - (3) - Sept. 12, 2004, 05:29:04 PM EDT
                                             ??? -NT - (Yendor) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2004, 07:58:46 PM EDT
                                                 ???? -NT - (broomberg) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2004, 08:23:46 PM EDT
                                                     !!! -NT - (Yendor) - Sept. 12, 2004, 08:36:16 PM EDT
                                 Modals wobble but they don't fall down. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 12, 2004, 08:52:24 PM EDT
                                     ROfsckingFL! - (jb4) - (6) - Sept. 13, 2004, 05:52:22 PM EDT
                                         Yep, teco was great. - (admin) - Sept. 13, 2004, 09:33:03 PM EDT
                                         In that case - (broomberg) - (4) - Sept. 13, 2004, 09:49:46 PM EDT
                                             Wuss - (pwhysall) - Sept. 14, 2004, 12:34:17 AM EDT
                                             Oh dear -- you woke Peter up. :-D -NT - (static) - (1) - Sept. 14, 2004, 01:00:40 AM EDT
                                                 Stalker! -NT - (pwhysall) - Sept. 14, 2004, 01:02:20 AM EDT
                                             Used both... - (jb4) - Sept. 14, 2004, 04:25:49 PM EDT
             VI keys. - (static) - (3) - Sept. 12, 2004, 08:38:39 PM EDT
                 I have heard this many times but never understood it - (bluke) - (2) - Sept. 13, 2004, 02:53:08 AM EDT
                     Refocus down just a little bit. - (static) - Sept. 13, 2004, 03:42:10 AM EDT
                     For me? - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 14, 2004, 12:14:46 PM EDT
             IDEA for Java - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:29:40 AM EDT
         The refactor tools are good - (ChrisR) - Sept. 12, 2004, 01:37:13 PM EDT
         Call it a terminology mismatch, then - (FuManChu) - (4) - Sept. 12, 2004, 10:37:12 PM EDT
             But that is what I use it for! - (broomberg) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2004, 10:51:12 PM EDT
                 How about this - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 13, 2004, 12:08:18 AM EDT
                     Mostly. - (FuManChu) - Sept. 13, 2004, 12:33:42 AM EDT
             Maybe - (bluke) - Sept. 13, 2004, 02:43:31 AM EDT
         I don't either - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 13, 2004, 12:22:57 PM EDT
         I think I put my finger on it - (drewk) - Sept. 13, 2004, 10:48:19 PM EDT

I turned to him, I said, "A-balone. You're just being shellfish." Well, I knew it was going to be trouble and so did Gill, who was already on the phone to the cods.
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