? RTFA

And I'm not going to RTFB.

The example of customization for different programmers' keyboards was a good one. Taken to the stupid extreme. So the problem here is all the programmers have the most productive environment for them individually, which then is a detriment to the occasional other programmer on their keyboard.

SO WHAT?

So would you prefer to drop the productivity of ALL of them just so any of them could walk over to any of the other's desk and be able to code at full speed, where full speed is the compromise which means none of them are every fully productive?

Like I explained in my IDE VS Editor rant, it is a matter of tradeoffs. Vi was not my 1st editor, Wordstar was. So my baby chick imprint is non-modal. My 1st full time programmer environment was using vi, but I quickly moved to Brief. Brief was MUCH better. Over the years I moved between various non-modal editors. Visual Slick was also very nice. But when I moved back to vi, by way of gvim, I was much happier.

Gvim has the nice syntax highlighting, GUI touches while staying the hell out of my way.

Modal is evil for some people. Non modal is evil for me. Ctl / Alt / Meta key usage is far more evil. Who has bad wrists, Bill Joy or Richard Stallman? Comes from reaching while a finger is pressing the Ctl key.

Post #173,800 by FuManChu 9/12/04 5:25:41 PM Reply	? RTFA ..then the book.
Post #173,801 by pwhysall 9/12/04 5:29:00 PM Reply	? Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #173,803 by FuManChu 9/12/04 5:36:17 PM Reply	Love ya man
Post #173,805 by FuManChu 9/12/04 5:38:50 PM Reply	Type faster, Barry! :D
Post #173,807 by broomberg 9/12/04 5:45:30 PM Reply	Huh?
Post #173,806 by broomberg 9/12/04 5:44:09 PM Reply	I did RTFA And I'm not going to RTFB. The example of customization for different programmers' keyboards was a good one. Taken to the stupid extreme. So the problem here is all the programmers have the most productive environment for them individually, which then is a detriment to the occasional other programmer on their keyboard. SO WHAT? So would you prefer to drop the productivity of ALL of them just so any of them could walk over to any of the other's desk and be able to code at full speed, where full speed is the compromise which means none of them are every fully productive? Like I explained in my IDE VS Editor rant, it is a matter of tradeoffs. Vi was not my 1st editor, Wordstar was. So my baby chick imprint is non-modal. My 1st full time programmer environment was using vi, but I quickly moved to Brief. Brief was MUCH better. Over the years I moved between various non-modal editors. Visual Slick was also very nice. But when I moved back to vi, by way of gvim, I was much happier. Gvim has the nice syntax highlighting, GUI touches while staying the hell out of my way. Modal is evil for some people. Non modal is evil for me. Ctl / Alt / Meta key usage is far more evil. Who has bad wrists, Bill Joy or Richard Stallman? Comes from reaching while a finger is pressing the Ctl key.
Post #173,808 by pwhysall 9/12/04 5:51:15 PM Reply	? I bet you have one of those evil PC keyboards that put CTRL down in the bottom left corner, where Satan wants it. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #173,809 by FuManChu 9/12/04 5:55:38 PM Reply	? CTRL should only be on the upper keyboard, so you can just lift a knuckle to "hold it up".
Post #173,848 by altmann 9/13/04 3:07:28 AM Reply	Footpedal Like a pipe organ. -- Chris Altmann
Post #173,810 by broomberg 9/12/04 6:04:15 PM Reply	Yup Along with the function keys across the top. I HATE them! But no, I have not remapped the Control and CapsLock to reverse themselves like some coders I know have done.
Post #173,802 by admin 9/12/04 5:29:04 PM Reply	? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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