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New Canada Looks for Ways to Fix Its Health Care System
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/12/international/americas/12canada.html?hp|Canada Looks for Ways to Fix Its Health Care System]

"..."If you are not bleeding all over the place, you are put on the back burner," Ms. Pacione said, "unless of course you have money or know somebody."

The publicly financed health insurance system remains a prideful jewel for most Canadians, who see it as an expression of communal caring for the less fortunate and a striking contrast to an American health care system that leaves 45 million people uninsured. But polls indicate that public confidence in the system is eroding, although politicians remain reticent to urge increasing privatization of services.
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Whitby officials estimate that 22,000 people here have no doctor at all, forcing them to go to emergency rooms at overcrowded local hospitals to wait in line for up to four hours simply to refill a prescription, get a doctor's note for an employer or care for their flu symptoms.

"It's like winning the lottery to get in and see the doctor," Mayor Marcel Brunelle said. "This is a very wealthy country. What happened to bring the situation to this point?"

It seems that the Canadian system is not all that it was cracked up to be.
New 22,000 people w/o doctor
As opposed to what, 2 million w/o insurance in USA? 22 million? Oh, my heart bleeds for them.

Now, when you say that the ones who do get a doctor don't get treated unless bribes or pull is involved, that sounds familiar.
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New That is just in 1 small area
it is much worse then that. In addition even those with a doctor have to wait a lot more then you do. From the article:

"The government statistical agency estimates that more than 3.6 million Canadians, representing nearly 15 percent of the population, do not have a family doctor. That remains better than in the United States, where an estimated 20 percent do not have a regular doctor."
New However, that doesn't mean that they don't have services
it means they don't have a family doctor.

For example, in Quebec, very few people have a traditional family doctor; instead, they get their services via the CLSC network of clinics.

Where I used to live (in the far north of the island of Laval) the local CLSC was three blocks away. Waiting times in the CLSC for an unscheduled visit typically range from one to four hours, depending on how busy they are and the seriousness of your problem. Of course, I've never gone there (either for myself or for my children) with a true life-threatening problem; those get resolved by an ambulance trip to the hospital.

The real problem we have is in waiting times for non-life-threatening problems, like hip replacements or cataract removal. Those can involve waiting for a very long time (eight to eighteen months, depending on where you live).

So, you're comparing apples to oranges; the rate of people who don't have a family doctor in Canada to the rate of people who have no health insurance of any kind in the US.
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Expand Edited by jake123 Sept. 13, 2004, 10:38:14 AM EDT
New ???
Canada has that many people?

gd&r ;-)
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New Only at hockey games.
New Rofl!
Alex

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     Canada Looks for Ways to Fix Its Health Care System - (bluke) - (6)
         22,000 people w/o doctor - (Arkadiy) - (5)
             That is just in 1 small area - (bluke) - (1)
                 However, that doesn't mean that they don't have services - (jake123)
             ??? - (admin) - (2)
                 Only at hockey games. -NT - (Ashton) - (1)
                     Rofl! -NT - (a6l6e6x)

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