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Post #17,351 by drewk 11/8/01 1:43:48 PM Reply	What was that?! I just got some IIS error messages while navigating fora here? Whazzup? We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #17,353 by inthane-chan 11/8/01 1:54:03 PM 11/8/01 2:00:21 PM Reply	NYT - Microsoft to acquire IWETHEY Associated Press - In a startling announcement today, Microsoft announced that they agreed to purchase IWETHEY, a noted group of pundits and visionaries, for the amount of $5, after a secret deal was pushed through by the owner of the trademark, one Thane Walkup. "I believe that these two groups are a natural complement for each other" said Mr. Walkup. "Microsoft's innovation has declined a bit in recent years, and I felt that some fresh blood was needed. IWETHEY is the perfect group to get them turned around." Most of the staff of IWETHEY would not agree to be interviewed, but a Mr. Conrad was willing to say, "That fucking pig abortion! I fucking knew we shouldn't have trusted that shit-eating pus-leaking zit on a camel's penis!" MSFT is up 23 points on the news. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche Edited by inthane-chan Nov. 8, 2001, 02:00:21 PM EST Expand All History
Post #17,355 by cwbrenn 11/8/01 2:02:14 PM Reply	LOL choke must... refill... coffee... and... change... shirt... :) "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
Post #17,368 by Simon_Jester 11/8/01 3:07:39 PM Reply	CHOKE!! LOL With a statement like that...I nominate CRC as official spokesman for IWETHEY! :-)
Post #17,380 by cwbrenn 11/8/01 4:00:02 PM Reply	Seconded I also move that our official motto be: "What the FUCKING FUCK?!?!?!?!" "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
Post #17,364 by tseliot 11/8/01 2:40:22 PM Reply	I expect some royalties on the name ;) --------------------------------- A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly by the chain of their own ideas;...despair and time eat away the bonds of iron and steel, but they are powerless against the habitual union of ideas, they can only tighten it still more; and on the soft fibres of the brain is founded the unshakable base of the soundest of Empires." Jacques Servan, 1767
Post #17,410 by static 11/8/01 7:25:57 PM Reply	+5, Cleverness. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #17,425 by slugbug 11/8/01 10:12:13 PM Reply	Spewing over here.... it's been a really crappy day -- thanks for making me laugh!!! :)
Post #17,430 by Ashton 11/8/01 10:53:37 PM Reply	:[ Hi Mags, Sorry to hear.. it's looking as if lots o' those bizness typhoons are retrenching, gettin rid of those liabilities: people er employees - and maybe installing bigger iron gates at the estate. (I guess it's just their way of displaying that er confidence thing - which they exhort the rest of us to display by buying even more stuff. No, it's not supposed to make sense) Hope you're onto something lateral.. down there. Hmm: maybe - go around to local places pondering biting that New M$ Licensing cyanide bullet: with a working setup on laptop, doin the basic things for free? (Bring copy of the New Licensing Rules + a 16x20 poster of Billy smarling.) (Nahh not the big macho Corps - small-medium? local folk) Just a thought. Remember when that fortune-teller escaped the Monterey jail? And the headline was - Small Medium at Large ! Cheers, Ashton
Post #17,572 by slugbug 11/9/01 4:54:32 PM Reply	Don't let it bring ya' down.... Ash, liked the 'small medium at large'.....slugbug jr laughed at that. I'm tryin' to keep it positive and upbeat....just been a rough week. And, I'm sick to death of the 'programming of the American people'. However, a long walk on the beach offsets all this rather nicely.... Tuning out, dropping in.. -Slug
Post #17,574 by ben_tilly 11/9/01 4:58:34 PM Reply	BTW don't lose contact Hope you and Jr wind up doing well. Hope she is adjusting well to college. Hope that (some day) you two will come out here or vice versa... Cheers, Ben
Post #17,586 by slugbug 11/9/01 5:23:20 PM Reply	No way... Not meaning to lose contact....have just been offline a bit more these days. I'm working toward self-employment by the end of the year so lots to do. The 'day job' rather sucks right now, too. As for Jr., she is doing great at college and she's in 'heavy like' too :) I'll try to get back there to visit, but it likely won't be before spring. Same goes for y'all.....feel free to come this way anytime. It's foggy round here, but at least we ain't got no stinkin' snow...heh!
Post #17,648 by jake123 11/10/01 12:32:53 AM Reply	It's only castles burnin' -- ---------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at jakesplace.dhs.org * * [link\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org\|[link\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org]] [link\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org\|[link\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org]] * * Montr\ufffdal PQ Canada [link\|news://jakesplace.dhs.org\|news://jakesplace.dhs.org] * ----------------------------------------------------------
Post #17,649 by jake123 11/10/01 12:33:55 AM Reply	Just find someone who's turnin' -- ---------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at jakesplace.dhs.org * * [link\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org\|[link\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org]] [link\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org\|[link\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org]] * * Montr\ufffdal PQ Canada [link\|news://jakesplace.dhs.org\|news://jakesplace.dhs.org] * ----------------------------------------------------------
Post #17,650 by jake123 11/10/01 12:34:37 AM Reply	And you will come around... :) -- ---------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at jakesplace.dhs.org * * [link\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org\|[link\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org\|http://jakesplace.dhs.org]] [link\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org\|[link\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org\|ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org]] * * Montr\ufffdal PQ Canada [link\|news://jakesplace.dhs.org\|news://jakesplace.dhs.org] * ----------------------------------------------------------
Post #17,653 by slugbug 11/10/01 12:43:25 AM Reply	eggactly! :)
Post #17,485 by inthane-chan 11/9/01 11:33:39 AM 11/9/01 11:34:00 AM Reply	Glad to be of service... :-) "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche Edited by inthane-chan Nov. 9, 2001, 11:34:00 AM EST Expand All History
Post #17,471 by jb4 11/9/01 10:23:11 AM Reply	guffaw jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #17,545 by tablizer 11/9/01 3:37:49 PM Reply	You do realize that the print version would read: "That [censored] pig [censored]! I [censored] knew we shouldn't have trusted that [censored]-eating [censored]-leaking zit on a camel's [censored]!" ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #17,546 by inthane-chan 11/9/01 3:41:08 PM Reply	Don't tell me that you've been reading... [link\|http://www.tessier.com/ThePlan/PlainText/censored.txt\|this] lately... "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,810 by tablizer 11/11/01 10:08:18 PM Reply	What the h*ll was that? They are not very consistent: "<mow> please! say ure kidding <Wasim> [censored] bill clinton <mow> yeh fucking bill clinton" The censorer is an airline baggage inspector no doubt. Hey, a CRC chatbot! I'd pay up to $8 for such, maybe even $9. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #17,820 by inthane-chan 11/12/01 12:58:37 AM Reply	You missed the point, boyo. Nobody was actually censored - they were playing with Mow's mind. Mow's stuff wasn't censored because everybody was typing in their own [censored] crap. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,370 by imric 11/8/01 3:12:09 PM Reply	Yah... This... The page cannot be found The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please try the following: If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly. Open the z.iwethey.org home page, and then look for links to the information you want. Click the Back button to try another link. HTTP 404 - File not found Internet Information Services Technical Information (for support personnel) More information: Microsoft Support [link\|http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=z.iwethey.org\|Someone's having fun with the 404 page] grin Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #17,379 by admin 11/8/01 3:50:28 PM Reply	I have no idea where that's coming from. As you pointed out, z.iwethey.org is Zope (proxied through Apache, actually). I haven't fiddled with the 404 page, though. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #17,381 by drewk 11/8/01 4:00:32 PM Reply	Then since it's not just me getting it ... It seems there is someone upstream from you having problems. I checked what I could on the page and couldn't find anything that didn't point to either iwethey.org or microsoft.com. Wish I could be more helpful. BTW: I get the 404 occasionally, but after a few reloads I get the page. Has all the symptoms of someone upstream from you having router issues. We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #17,386 by boxley 11/8/01 4:10:08 PM Reply	I always ping z.iwethey.org for connect probs tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #17,413 by static 11/8/01 8:14:22 PM Reply	IP stealing? I've been having connection problems also to II, but the IP address stays correct. Could this be another box (running NT) at the co-lo accidentally trying to steal the IP address? Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #17,457 by pwhysall 11/9/01 5:45:50 AM Reply	Unlikely Far more likely is a horked round-robin DNS server at the colo. Peter Shill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #17,414 by static 11/8/01 8:14:50 PM Reply	IP stealing? I've been having connection problems also to II, but the IP address stays correct. Could this be another box (running NT) at the co-lo accidentally trying to steal the IP address? Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #17,444 by n3jja 11/8/01 11:59:46 PM Reply	No, it's definately not just you Just ran into the problem myself tonight. Took about 5-8 reloads to get the right page to show up. Most unnerving.....
Post #17,450 by Meerkat 11/9/01 3:23:21 AM Reply	II was going weird this afternoon, too. No idea if it's related or not though. Was thrown off it a few times around 3pm this afternoon (Aus Eastern Standard Daylight Savings Time) Or, like, about four and half hours ago from now. Still, was able to log back inn each time after waiting a few minutes. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #17,473 by jb4 11/9/01 10:26:10 AM Reply	Happened just this morning here Here = Northwest suburbs of Chicago. got same message, too. But we're behind a corporate firewall that is definately IIS. Could that be the cause? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #17,451 by Ashton 11/9/01 3:35:08 AM Reply	Physicians; heal selves. How would one trap this page (as in: ID its actual server and go from there) ? I know what a packet sniffer does - youse guys know how to use one to some effect. Right? (I mean of course.. if this &$% continues to get worse - where it appears to be heading..) Maybe the poor dear has his IIS installed just like Billy says: insert the CD and We'll Take Care of Everything; don' need all that geek BS about knowin stuff.. :-)
Post #17,465 by boxley 11/9/01 9:42:53 AM Reply	wouldnt help here is a clue last night had trouble connecting, so fired up a dos prompt and did ping -t z.iwethey.org found a minute or two of time outs then a few very large ttl (time to live) then a solid connection, left ping running and went back to browsing, timed out again then cacked again. Peter is prolly right horked round robin router. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #17,561 by Ashton 11/9/01 4:19:51 PM Reply	Re: wouldnt help here is a clue Would that be something like ~ a typo, two ports w/ same address (or a mask with wrong range) so that randomly a packet queries this (wrong) server -- and we wouldn't see the traffic from outside - to examine? (Just wondering what sort of BS youse guys have to put up with normal homo-sap errors.) I inferred somewhere that - changing a router address in an operating network needs careful restraint and coordination - er 'propagating' and such.. Izzat (maybe) it? like newbies fakin-it, not knowin WTF happened: "must be a protocol error.." (The MDs' version when they don't know shit: "you have non-specific proctitis" ;-) Gosh.. IP-addressing must be the same as when we first heard 'you have to take Algebra next year!' (and the old smug hands say.. 'yeah.. that's a Killer'). A.
Post #17,571 by boxley 11/9/01 4:54:06 PM Reply	router round robin 1 ip address several ports listening each taking turns. 1 packet goes to port 1 1 to port 2 1 to port 3 etc. then back to port1 if you get a new packet the port that gets the first packet will handle the rest of the conversation. Now say the cable on port 3 is cacked. The router will still send packets to that port as part of the round robin. That would generate odd timeouts of a ip address like I saw. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #17,578 by Ashton 11/9/01 5:07:37 PM Reply	Ah.. I see. Thanx
Post #17,408 by Ashton 11/8/01 7:21:28 PM Reply	Ah.. HAHHhh !! And here I was about to Dismantle the Pee Cee, radiate all parts with 400 RADS of gammas, fumigate and reload - thinking that my virginal sys had been raped by some scurvy part of IE (even though neither IE nor IIS are even on disk -- but IE would lie anyway). I saved copy of the 404 in Suggestions forum. How could this atrocity happen? Where have we sinned? Ackkkkk Pffffffffffffffffffttt
Post #17,487 by jlalexander 11/9/01 11:38:29 AM Reply	Update! Well, it took a little wrestling with my ISP partner (whom is a MS guy), but I finally got him to agree that it's a routing issue and not my linux box (which he's apt to blame, most of the time). We're going to reboot our router this morning and force a rebuild of the routing tables, and if that doesn't help, we go up the chain. So, just so you guys know, we're on the issue. And, I hope to have us back to 100% soon! I'll let you know something as soon as I know something, as always. -Jason ---- My pid is Inigo Montoya. You "killed -9" my parent process. Prepare to vi.
Post #17,488 by admin 11/9/01 11:44:07 AM Reply	Re: Update! Typical. I'm sure he's used to Windows boxen just up and changing something on their own, so he expects that Linux does the same. ;-) Regards, -scott anderson
Post #17,501 by jlalexander 11/9/01 12:51:43 PM Reply	Re: Update! If you guys have the IIS issue again (which I've witnessed, myself, a few times now and shown my partner), please immediately go to [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/a.html\|http://z.iwethey.org/a.html] -- we've setup a default page on all of our IIS servers with their respective server name on the page. This will help us track down if it's a case with DHCP or something else silly like that. Just post the server name if you catch it. Thanks! -Jason ---- My pid is Inigo Montoya. You "killed -9" my parent process. Prepare to vi.
Post #17,514 by drewk 11/9/01 1:52:34 PM Reply	Just curious How would a horked Linux box end up serving me a distinctly IIS 404 page? BTW for Peter: is "horked" an NT/2000 term? I'm not familiar with that one. We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #17,516 by inthane-chan 11/9/01 1:56:47 PM Reply	Horked == FUBAR Not just for Win** flavors, either. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,517 by jlalexander 11/9/01 1:56:51 PM Reply	It wouldn't. But, it took a good beating to get my partner to understand that. Everything appears to be better. I haven't had any issues, yet. cross my fingers -Jason ---- My pid is Inigo Montoya. You "killed -9" my parent process. Prepare to vi.

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