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New Only if you believe in it
and I do not think that you do. You haven't shown me any evidence that you do. I speak out of love, not hate, but I won't hesitate to defend myself or my views or my beliefs, and I can only turn the other cheek so much before I attack back, yet the attack is out of love for a dicipline, and not hate. Yet I do believe that even people who hate me, or call me wrong, or an idiot, or try to knock down anything I have to say, still have the rights and freedoms that they should have. That is the difference between me and some others, I am often told by those here that I should not vote, as I have no right to vote. All I see are some would-be tinpot dictators who speak out of hate, and want to take away my rights because my opinions and views differ from their. I see no difference between them and Adolf Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, the KKK, and other hate groups that want to take away people's rights who have different views or opinions than theirs. I feel that taking away of rights and freedoms goes against civilized society, and goes back to Tyranny.



"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift




[link|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268|I am from District 268].
New What I believe doesn't mean sh*t to a tree
(5 points for the first poster to correctly attribute the reference in the title.)

I'm not the one jumping up and down yelling the WASP equivalent of "Jihad" at the top of his lungs in this thread, while subserviently whining his Christian proselytism in others. Besides spouting gibberish here, you're spouting hypocricy. Which is yet another sin.

Wash your hands, little man....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Why, that's "Eskimo Blue Day"!
You call it loud
But the human crowd
Doesn't mean shit to a tree.
—from Jefferson Airplane's exhilarating (if perhaps not artistically first-rate and, in the edition I have, at any rate, atrociously engineered CD) 1969 album Volunteers. (For what it's worth I count After Bathing at Baxters their masterpiece: the best and most authentic acid album of all times. Er, I rely on the testimony of my cousin Ernie, of course, in asserting this.)

I must say, though, that the anarchistic smash-the-state sentiments running through the work were a lot more exhilarating when I heard them ringing from the left in my late teens than they were a quarter of a century later coming from the Montana Militia and their various fellow travelers.

cordially,

Oh, and Norm—now that we've seen you in your insult-and-invective mode I exhort you, as a friend, not to quit your day job in the unlikely event you ever secure one. Your particular gifts, assuming these exist, do not include the ability to compose and convey devastating ripostes.

[edit: typo]
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Expand Edited by rcareaga Aug. 11, 2004, 11:11:18 PM EDT
New what! no blue cheer? King Crimson?
also second hand, hey might even have been Earnie if he was around Santa Monica circa 1971.
thanx,
bill
"delayed incessantly by people whose prevalent qualification was an excess of free-time" Philip Atkinson
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Just checked with Ernie
—and he avers that while no disrespect is intended to either Blue Cheer (a plausible contender) or King Crimson (less so, though of course gifted in their way*), any acidhead who was paying attention during the specified period knows that ABaB quintessentially captures the indole alkaloid Zeitgeist.

cordially,

*I have a sentimental fondness for KC, whose In the Wake of Poseidon constituted part of the soundtrack of my abortive freshman year in 1970, but the overproduced "art rock" style they pioneered, and which began to dominate popular music until the punk rebellion, drove me away from rock for a long time thereafter.

[edit edit: repetitititition]
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Expand Edited by rcareaga Aug. 11, 2004, 11:38:35 PM EDT
Expand Edited by rcareaga Aug. 11, 2004, 11:39:10 PM EDT
New Re: Why, that's "Eskimo Blue Day"!
Ding!

I'd accuse you of Googling, but you're old enough to actually know this... ;-)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

     Chicago "Oklahoma City" type plot thwarted! - (Nightowl) - (84)
         Re: Chicago "Oklahoma City" type plot thwarted! - (deSitter) - (83)
             Virgin . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Sorry, must disagree - (Nightowl) - (81)
                 so Bush is a terrorist? -NT - (boxley) - (78)
                     Yep. Unprovoked attacks on another nation. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (47)
                         Sure why not? - (orion) - (46)
                             3 million? - (pwhysall) - (40)
                                 From Iraqi immigrants - (orion) - (39)
                                     That's close to 15% of the population -NT - (deSitter)
                                     No such thing as an unbiased source, Norman. - (pwhysall) - (37)
                                         Even if the numbers are wrong - (orion) - (36)
                                             Yes we should - (lincoln) - (5)
                                                 I think the problem here - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                                     So N. Korea is justified in attacking the USA? - (lincoln) - (3)
                                                         we have been at war with them since 1950's - (boxley) - (2)
                                                             Technically that was not a war on our side -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                 OTOH, isn't signing a truce=retroactively declaring war? :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                             The problem with that reasoning... - (pwhysall) - (17)
                                                 I agree, but the USA is remarkably incompetent about it - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Zimbabwe cannot be invaded by us, the UK screwed that pooch - (boxley)
                                                 Very well so - (orion) - (14)
                                                     Wrong Answer - (jbrabeck) - (12)
                                                         Right answer - (orion) - (11)
                                                             Lifted 700 Club slogans do not a Statesman make. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                 Yet you error again - (orion) - (1)
                                                                     So why, then,... - (jb4)
                                                             Responsibility? - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                                                                 Yeah sure - (orion) - (4)
                                                                     Norm, you wouldn't last an hour. - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                                         All I know about war I learned in comic books... -NT - (admin)
                                                                     And that makes Iraq different from Saudi Arabia how? - (inthane-chan)
                                                                     So volunteer already. - (Silverlock)
                                                             I've forgotten more about war than you've ever known. - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                                 Did you really get a beer ration? :) -NT - (deSitter)
                                                     What is the sound of a clue-by-4 hitting Norm's brain? - (jb4)
                                             OK, so what about Idi Amin? Pol Pot? Etc. etc.? - (jb4) - (11)
                                                 Learn how the system works - (orion) - (6)
                                                     Now THAT's Precious! (new thread) - (Ashton)
                                                     ** SHUN ** -NT - (jb4)
                                                     That was stupid when you said it before - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                         Your response was invalid back then - (orion) - (2)
                                                             A Masterpiece of purest digital-'think'__!!__For posterity. - (Ashton)
                                                             And this is pointless - (ben_tilly)
                                                 None of them had a - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                     None of them had much [oil] either -NT - (jb4) - (2)
                                                         Riiight. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                         or had been mean to Dad? -NT - (Ashton)
                             A war fought on false pretenses ... - (jb4) - (4)
                                 It's like saying that a rape is justified... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                     OT on rape seattle and children (new thread) - (boxley)
                                 The right war for the wrong reasons - (orion) - (1)
                                     Are you THAT fucking stoopud, Norm! (new thread) - (jb4)
                     Well... - (Nightowl) - (29)
                         In no way - (boxley) - (28)
                             Let me clarify - (Nightowl) - (26)
                                 well that makes you a terrorist as well - (boxley) - (25)
                                     That's why opinion - (Nightowl)
                                     What does that make Kerry? - (orion) - (22)
                                         Re: What does that make Kerry? - (xtensive) - (21)
                                             This is the same as the suicide bomers - (orion) - (20)
                                                 Loaded question, with a bad answer - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                     Well, I rather relish a French Liberation force! - (jb4)
                                                 Yes, it seems that you are fools - (Ashton) - (17)
                                                     Sorry, already planning to vote - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                         OK, you're excused. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                             Glad to clear it up. - (Nightowl)
                                                     I will still vote - (orion) - (13)
                                                         When brooks babble.. it's music. When you babble, it snot -NT - (Ashton)
                                                         Been listening to Rush again, I see... - (jb4) - (11)
                                                             I don't listen to Rush - (orion) - (10)
                                                                 No one here hates you, Norm - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                                     Ah but you do - (orion) - (1)
                                                                         Hated? - (Silverlock)
                                                                 "Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner" - (jb4) - (6)
                                                                     Only if you believe in it - (orion) - (5)
                                                                         What I believe doesn't mean sh*t to a tree - (jb4) - (4)
                                                                             Why, that's "Eskimo Blue Day"! - (rcareaga) - (3)
                                                                                 what! no blue cheer? King Crimson? - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                     Just checked with Ernie - (rcareaga)
                                                                                 Re: Why, that's "Eskimo Blue Day"! - (jb4)
                                     Kerry and Bush are both terrorists - (Arkadiy)
                             No more quips on Boxlish from moi.. - (Ashton)
                 No - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Agree with your definition except /politician/republican -NT - (boxley)

A record-setting ne plus ultra of sheer imbecilic vacuity.
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