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New Now I understand Th 1:2 & 3
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"IMhO you cannot 'explain' these 3 sentences to a retard; it just won't happen. You have to find out a lot - and then dismiss that all! before you can get close.. how about calling it a most difficult Simplicity?"
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That helps me to understand Thomas 1:2 better. Thanks.

2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he
finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes
troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is
in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and
you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living
Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."

P.S. Yes, I am fairly astonished by all that I am learning in the past few years since my studies of multiple religions began. I ran across Joseph Campbell from his video interviews with Bill Moyer. He was the one that got me interested in the many religions, or as he called them, the masks of God. His "Hero" video was also quite enlightening.
New He obviously loved his work
and his scholarship speaks for itself, along with his clear effort not to latch-on to some EZ 'solution for all'..

No one can say 'what he realized', of course, just as with any other person. But he wasn't selling anything! and I think that's evidence that he really did grok the humor and saw why it didn't much matter - which metaphor you decide to focus on, so long as you didn't start to build a model-Edifice.. around it and begin renting space in it. :-\ufffd

Believe the other verses you quote are as apt as any that are around re astonishment - what else is an appropriate response to just noticing the Mystery of umm *I Am*, as that filters in from sleep, each AM (or PM - depending on your hours ;-)? Many have noted even the astonishing-humor of ~ 'seeking' that which already you 'possess', but just haven't noticed.

Enjoy the process; it seems that no two are the same and there's never an EOF (except for the Model-builders: then you Know they got it screwed up)


Cheers,

Ashton
still dismantling dead ones; it's sometimes a start - beats owl-entrails.
     How many of the 10 Commandments did the terrorists break? - (brettj) - (9)
         Right tool for the job? - (Ashton)
         you want to find Satan? ez stuff - (boxley) - (7)
             Turns out that - (Ashton)
             You want to get rid of the devil? - (brettj) - (5)
                 Bingo on 113. -NT - (Ashton) - (4)
                     Joseph Campbell also liked 113 - (brettj) - (3)
                         Re: Joseph Campbell also liked 113 - (Ashton) - (2)
                             Now I understand Th 1:2 & 3 - (brettj) - (1)
                                 He obviously loved his work - (Ashton)

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