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New I had a 6-Gig in \\\\Rhino . .
. . that wasn't shut down for several years. Then I did an upgrade or something and it was off for a day. When turned back on, it would spin up, not quite make it's RPMs and shut down. I jacked the power on and off a couple dozen times and it finally made it up and running so I could copy everything off. started it up and shut it down another 50 times or so and it was all better - no problem.

Some people were warning companies that planned to shut all their computers down 31 Dec 1999 and bring them up on 2 Jan 2000 about this. Apparently drives that never stop can get sticky in the head landing zone.
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New In a similar vein...
...I reduced the incidence of the Clunk Of Impending Death by turning power management off, and leaving the drive spinning all the time.
On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
New On some newer drives, not a problem because they aren't
parking on the disk anyway...doing that wastes too much valuable data space (bragging rights?).

Most people were surprised Fujitsu quit the desktop space - IBM had publicly predicated that they'd be one of the survivors, along with IBM (another company with deep pockets), Seagate, and one (maybe two) more companies. Maybe part of the answer is that Fujitsu's been hurt a lot more than IBM in the recent downturn.

It actually looks like the drive industry could be having a mild upturn -- we've seen renewed interest in our products for the disk drive industry, and some salesmen from other companies have said the same thing. I'll really believe it when we get some decent sized orders.

Question: what's the only industry stupider than the HDD manufacturers?

Answer: the DRAM makers! Isn't selling for 50% below cost a great idea? Although it looks like Intel and AMD might come in second with their price wars, along with some of the dot bomb business models.

Tony
New AMD v.s. Intel.
Actually, in Intel's case, it makes perfect sense.

Intel has a crappy product (AMD 1.53ghz processor, called a "Athlon XP 1800+" matches the performance of a 2ghz P4 and sells for less, because AMD can't get no respect.) but buckets of cash.

AMD has a great product (see above) but not so much cash.

Intel wants to kick AMD out of the market, before AMD can get a foothold in the more lucrative high-end processor market.

Intel cuts prices to gouge out AMD's bottom line, and hopefully (for Intel) AMD goes tits up.

Intel then responds by sitting on major new advances and slowing the release cycle to return to profitability.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New But it's also hurting Intel
Look at how much their profits have dropped. Plus, they've been losing money big time getting into other (e.g. networking) markets -- and these markets will not support monopoly pricing (at least by the chip vendors such as Intel, although maybe by the end producers such as Cisco).

In some ways, it could be worse for Intel. Intel's much higher stock price is based on monopoly margins -- and if they have a big loss due to the pricewar they started, it'll be interesting to see how investors react.

I don't think AMD is going away -- if they run out of cash, I'd expect someone to pick them up, which could be even worse for Intel. If they can make it to next summer, when the Hammer comes out, Intel will be in real trouble. And I expect AMD will make it.

BTW, the DRAM and HDD companies are using similar logic (Seagate, the largest HDD company, has been the worst offender with pricing below cost) -- it's called "last man standing". But, now HDD's are a commodity and I don't think they'll be able to get buyers out of a commodity mindset to increase margins again. (For one, they'd have to produce products with compelling differences -- but even then they'd have to market the heck out of it)

Tony
Who is helping AMD along by buying yet another Athlon from NewEgg
-- and hopes that Sun will go on the war path with Jalapeno AND Motorola will finally figure out how to make G5's
     Dying IBM 75GXP. Seagate replacement? DriveImage/DriveCopy? - (Another Scott) - (20)
         Re: Dying IBM 75GXP. Seagate replacement? DriveImage/DriveCo - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             Saw it. That's what made me nervous about my drive... :( -NT - (Another Scott)
         Well, personally I've banned Seagate SCSI drives. - (Andrew Grygus) - (16)
             I've had trouble with Seagate IDE, too - (Meerkat) - (15)
                 To long ago to be relevent now . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (14)
                     Frankly, they've all had problems - (tonytib) - (13)
                         Yes, WD drives often act odd. - (Andrew Grygus) - (12)
                             Too bad about Fujitsu is getting out of the drive business. - (a6l6e6x) - (11)
                                 On Fujitsu - (pwhysall) - (10)
                                     I like Fujitsu's error handling... - (Meerkat) - (5)
                                         I had a 6-Gig in \\\\Rhino . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                                             In a similar vein... - (Meerkat)
                                             On some newer drives, not a problem because they aren't - (tonytib) - (2)
                                                 AMD v.s. Intel. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                     But it's also hurting Intel - (tonytib)
                                     You are wrong - in the U.S. anyway. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                         Ahem. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                             Guess you guys just aren't in a "prime market" -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                 Yep, sucks. - (pwhysall)
         Seagate, Drive Image ordered. Will report back if problems. -NT - (Another Scott)

Only if you're a philistinic illiterate colonial baboon like yourself.
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