I'd be interested

Post #157,571 by ben_tilly 5/29/04 3:30:19 PM Reply	I'd be interested Reading that thread I also heard about swappiness. Dang, but that sounds like a useful parameter that I wish I had heard about earlier. I hate coming to a machine in the morning and finding that all of my programs have been swapped out for the convenience of a cron job which was not performance critical... Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #157,581 by a6l6e6x 5/29/04 3:54:01 PM Reply	That reminds me of "time sharing" systems of old. All the users would be on dumb (and mechanical) terminals like an [link\|http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/1052.html\|IBM 1052]. People would fiddle with the shift key while reading the output on paper. The activity would keep the user in a higher priority queue. Alex Honor has not to be won; it must only not be lost. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860), German philosopher
Post #157,645 by Meerkat 5/30/04 12:17:50 AM Reply	That page links to some very cool stuff Primarily, [link\|http://www.nfrpartners.com/comphistory/\|photos of old IBM equipment]. I remember as a work experience kid having to lean the vacuum channels of the tape drive - gangs of fun. The author's wry commentary is good value too. Picture A : "Decks of punched cards" Picture B: "Insert the cards at left to produce these. They are called 'core dumps'" :) And the wall behind the 1130 system is just ... far out. Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #157,652 by broomberg 5/30/04 12:38:22 AM Reply	Everyone smoked.
Post #157,723 by a6l6e6x 5/30/04 2:13:25 PM Reply	Thanks, I hadn't seen those. That was my world in my late 20's, early 30's. Alex Honor has not to be won; it must only not be lost. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860), German philosopher
Post #157,780 by Meerkat 5/30/04 10:13:02 PM Reply	Bits of it were my late teens, early 20s. I was just a mainframe user, not an operator. (My week of work experience as a 15yr old notwithstanding.) Of course, being a young mainframe COBOL programmer generally meant I hated it, longing for something more current. But nowadays I look back on it with a certain fondness. There are still aspects of ISPF that I miss. Well, a bit. Maybe. (I don't miss having to carry armfuls of tape reels across site to the 'backup safe'...) Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #157,648 by broomberg 5/30/04 12:31:20 AM Reply	Interested? Then comment Tell me what is good, bad, or stupid! Point me into area I will need to research before thinking about devleoping. Give me the email of someone who might actually do it, rather than me!
Post #157,821 by ben_tilly 5/31/04 2:05:14 AM 5/31/04 2:06:08 AM Reply	Well... I like preloading programs. Those tend to be reasonably often accessed, and of reasonable size. Though some might dislike it because they say, "I load a program, and part of it never gets modified, why not just keep only what I need paged into memory?" My gut says that this is wrong, but some good benchmarks would be useful. I don't like guessing at files though - constantly guessing wrong would massively increase the size of your working set, causing you to make the swap problem worse for other programs. You might achieve a modicum of sanity by setting limits on how much data/program you are willing to preload. So you increase the working set, but by a tunable amount. Cheers, Ben PS About an email address for someone that I can think of who might do it, do you really want me to give you your own email address? :-P (My way of saying that nobody comes to mind.) To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court] Edited by ben_tilly May 31, 2004, 02:06:08 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #157,842 by FuManChu 5/31/04 9:59:55 AM Reply	The horror of MS Office FastFind springs to mind ...there was a hideous model of anti-efficiency if I ever saw one.
Post #157,858 by folkert 5/31/04 1:00:56 PM Reply	What do you meam: WAS? You mean STILL is. It lives on in the OS called "Volume Information Index" (or something close) No frickin way does ANYTHING need to know as much about the filesystem. Or the contents of the files. Sheesh. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Give a man a match, he'll be warm for a minute. Set him on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life!

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