Nasty nasty business. The dumb part of this type of act

Post #154,698 by dmarker 5/11/04 7:08:05 PM Reply	Nasty nasty business. The dumb part of this type of act is that it has the reverse effect of what they claim they want to achieve. It rallies US citizens together & encourages harder attitudes to Iraqis & the negative activities going on there in Iraq. It provides mountains of counter propaganda. It paints the incorrect picture of muslims generally as henious murderous bastards who happily violate the most basic tennets of human dignity. But the practice of videoing helpless (bound) prisoners being murdered in this way, is not new - a lot of these types of videos were produced by mujshadeen in Afghanistan, showing captured russians being done in. Doug M
Post #154,707 by Arkadiy 5/11/04 8:01:07 PM Reply	When will we hear some sort of regret from any imam or mullah? Preferably on CNN. No, I am not holding my breath. -- Buy high, sell sober.
Post #154,747 by Ashton 5/12/04 2:51:06 AM Reply	Where were the preachers when the KKK Ruled?
Post #154,754 by dmarker 5/12/04 4:47:40 AM Reply	This bizzare beheading just got a lot of folk ... off the hook re the prisoner abuse scandal & before the full details ("worse to come") are released by those who control the release of such info. US senators trying to investgate the abuses had their feet 'kicked out from under them'. This guy (in the video) wasn't a US soldier He wasn't a US Iraqi prison guard He wasn't contracted for security duties He wasn't a grinning pixie faced US girl his execution for the reasons claimed by the hooded murderers, makes no real sense when one considers the timing & imapct. Doug M
Post #154,764 by mmoffitt 5/12/04 8:27:29 AM Reply	Unfortunately, it does make sense. You gave the reason already: It rallies US citizens together & encourages harder attitudes to Iraqis & the negative activities going on there in Iraq. Ultimately that serves their purpose. What the insurgents most need is for the US to portray itself to the majority of Mid-Eastern peoples in the worst light possible. They knew this would get us riled up. All one need do to see how well this worked is to speak with a few Muricans. Last night at the office the cleaning crew was talking about "leveling every mosque and killing every Iraqi, re-instating the draft and lining up thousands of troops on the Iranian border so those 'rag-heads' don't get any ideas", etc. That sentiment from us is exactly what they wanted. They want us to become just like them. bcnu, Mikem If you can read this, you are not the President.
Post #154,894 by dmarker 5/12/04 4:58:54 PM 5/13/04 2:39:47 AM Reply	But that for them, flies in the face of their goals They 'want' US citizenry to remain confused & upset by the prison scandal, the beheading just negated that. I am happy that we agree to disagree on this point but both cases are valid arguments. Cheers Doug #2 Was just remembering that the last time a Bin Laden sanctioned act of horror unified the US, Bin Laden (& his Taliban allies) lost the one country they had conrol of (plus 'some' legitimacy in) at the cost of 1000s of lives & paved the way for George Bush to conjure up a reason for invading Iraq. Is it a case of al-Qaeda org is it that they just don't learn, or that they figure that if they keep trying enough (at so upsetting & unifying US citizenry) that they will win ? - Only result I see is that Bush can justify further grand-scale military adventures & get senate & public approval to carry them out. I believe that acts like this one do more to keep Bush in office & thus keep up his focus on destroying al-Qaeda's potential to ever achieve their 'grand' Andalusian goals. Edited by dmarker May 13, 2004, 01:10:00 AM EDT Edited by dmarker May 13, 2004, 02:39:47 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #154,942 by JayMehaffey 5/13/04 1:27:58 AM Reply	More likely More likely that can not admit to themselves that they are defeating their own goals then the neocons can. It's the blindness of somebody that is, or wants to be, totally dedicated to the cause. They can't admit, even to themselves, that what they are doing might be wrong. Jay
Post #154,769 by Arkadiy 5/12/04 8:56:20 AM Reply	KKK was not killing for Christ -- Buy high, sell sober.
Post #154,841 by rcareaga 5/12/04 1:04:41 PM Reply	What an extraordinary coincidence! The KKK wasn't killing for Christ? Neither were the bad fellas in the videotape yesterday. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #154,868 by Arkadiy 5/12/04 3:30:31 PM Reply	Huh? They were killing for Allah the Merciful -- Buy high, sell sober.
Post #154,709 by a6l6e6x 5/11/04 8:07:51 PM Reply	They are only trying to keep Bush as US president. Long term, it's good for the jihad. Alex There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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