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Post #1,499 by Fearless Freep 7/11/01 3:07:09 PM Reply	Would it? And I won't let your children die just so that mine can live with me. Would it be solace to you? "Oh well, they took my kids away and I'm branded a child-abuser for life, but at least someone else's child might live" How much paranoia is worth it? How many families that are wrongly accused are worth the off chance you might save one? 10, 100, 1,000. How do you even know how many kids have actually been saved? How do you know if your child who has been taken by the state is even safe? ============================================ CHELSEA, Maine - The high chair was tipped over in an unfinished part of the basement and smeared with blood when detectives arrived. Strewn about were strips of duct tape with clumps of hair. The horror chamber described by police is where 5-year-old Logan Marr spent the final hours of her life, taped to her high chair and, evidence suggests, her mouth covered with tape. Cause of death: asphyxiation. It's not just the grisly nature of the case that's drawn attention since Logan died Jan. 31. The woman charged in the death, the child's foster mother, is a former caseworker for the state agency that monitors foster parents. ============================================ More examples of children dying after the state decided to 'err on the side of the child' for the sake of the children: [link\|http://www.nccpr.org/newissues/3.html\|SOME CASE HISTORIES] "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting
Post #1,501 by pwhysall 7/11/01 3:44:42 PM Reply	That's a highly pathological example And additionally it's a failure of a system that tries to prevent the death of any child. For me, at least, TRYING is highly important. What I can't stomach is the idea that we back off and accept that the collateral damage of some dead children is a suitable price to pay for the sake of "rights". Because for those "rights", we're sacrificing the rights of those children. And that can't be right... can it? -- Peter Shill For Hire
Post #1,546 by boxley 7/11/01 9:36:54 PM Reply	Peter, there has to be a better way. For every failure here to pull a child from an abusive situation and the child dies is complicated by 2 children dying by abuse by the state. This is a fact. If someone thought my children were in danger and I knew that they would be in a safe home, fed well and taken care of until court I wouldnt have a problem. Knowing by the news and my own personal experience If my kids were taken, I would rescue them and take them home to our village where the Indian Child welfare act kicks in and the Tribal Council gets custody, fearless does not have that option. He knows the kids would lose if taken away. Everytime, everywhere in this nation. That is a fact that the state is the worse parent imaginable. Just read Charlie Manson in his own words of his state upbringing, his story is average not exceptional and you would wish this on our own children? thanx, bill can I have my ones and zeros back?

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