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Post #148,320
by deSitter
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3/24/04 8:29:19 PM
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New Can you unravel that for the ignorant?
-drl
Post #148,333
by admin
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3/24/04 8:52:44 PM
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New Seaside doesn't use URLs.
There's a gargantuan session thinger that gets included in every page that keeps track of where you "are" in the application: each hit goes to the same URL and only the session info changes. This is great for workflow apps, but horrible for apps that benefit from an actual URL that can be bookmarked and passed around.

[link|http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/avi/blogView?searchCategory=continuations|HREF Considered Harmful]
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-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #148,335
by deSitter
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3/24/04 8:58:15 PM
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New Thanks!


-drl
Post #148,393
by tuberculosis
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3/24/04 10:50:25 PM
8/21/07 6:03:13 AM
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New That's a fair point
and one I hadn't considered for an app that's more of a repository (big book thingy) than an application.

I do find his experiements with direct manipulation (inspectors on web UI components) fascinating though.



Java is a joke, only it's not funny.

     --Alan Lovejoy
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:03:13 AM EDT
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Post #148,395
by admin
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3/24/04 10:53:07 PM
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New Seaside looks great for actual applications
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-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #148,443
by Avi Bryant
3/25/04 3:00:50 AM
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New Not true
Seaside does have a gargantuan session ID in the URL, but that doesn't have to be *all* there is: the rest can be taken up with useful, bookmarkable info. I don't know exactly what your requirements are, but don't dismiss Seaside just on the bookmarking issue.

See [link|http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/avi/blogView?showComments=true&entry=3256899497|http://www.cincomsma...&entry=3256899497] for more.
Post #148,470
by admin
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3/25/04 9:14:00 AM
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New Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again. (new thread)
Created as new thread #148469 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=148469|Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again.]
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-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
     Given your comments, perhaps we should rewrite? - (FuManChu) - (30) - March 24, 2004, 07:04:36 PM EST
         Put up a test environment z.iwethey.org/xforums -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 07:36:21 PM EST
             You bet. - (FuManChu) - March 24, 2004, 07:46:50 PM EST
         If that's your guess... - (admin) - (14) - March 24, 2004, 07:59:55 PM EST
             *That* I would like to see. HTMLTidy, anyone? ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (13) - March 24, 2004, 09:39:44 PM EST
                 It's right here: - (admin) - (12) - March 24, 2004, 09:50:04 PM EST
                     Feature request - (ben_tilly) - (6) - March 24, 2004, 10:17:49 PM EST
                         Re: Feature request - (admin) - (5) - March 24, 2004, 10:35:29 PM EST
                             I wondered why I briefly got the Devil's Tower page... - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 24, 2004, 10:36:41 PM EST
                                 Actually I just randomly take Zope down every so often - (admin) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 10:39:40 PM EST
                                     Ha! -NT - (Another Scott) - March 24, 2004, 10:40:48 PM EST
                             Gracias - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 11:24:18 PM EST
                                 Yep. - (admin) - March 24, 2004, 11:28:03 PM EST
                     Looks straightforward. - (FuManChu) - (4) - March 24, 2004, 10:40:53 PM EST
                         The 2.X code is much cleaner. - (admin) - (3) - March 24, 2004, 10:48:22 PM EST
                             Dig that funky extensibility groove. :) - (FuManChu) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 11:08:14 PM EST
                                 Why functions and regexes (new thread) - (admin) - March 24, 2004, 11:27:34 PM EST
                             And the point was proven... -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 24, 2004, 11:26:24 PM EST
         You don't want to try a seaside implementation? - (tuberculosis) - (11) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:02:22 AM EDT
             Seaside's sessioning is problematic - (admin) - (9) - March 24, 2004, 08:27:55 PM EST
                 Can you unravel that for the ignorant? -NT - (deSitter) - (6) - March 24, 2004, 08:29:19 PM EST
                     Seaside doesn't use URLs. - (admin) - (5) - March 24, 2004, 08:52:44 PM EST
                         Thanks! - (deSitter) - March 24, 2004, 08:58:15 PM EST
                         That's a fair point - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:03:13 AM EDT
                             Seaside looks great for actual applications -NT - (admin) - March 24, 2004, 10:53:07 PM EST
                         Not true - (Avi Bryant) - (1) - March 25, 2004, 03:00:50 AM EST
                             Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again. (new thread) - (admin) - March 25, 2004, 09:14:00 AM EST
                 can that be bypassed? - (boxley) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 09:23:20 PM EST
                     Not exactly - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:03:22 AM EDT
             This is a great idea - (deSitter) - March 24, 2004, 08:30:17 PM EST
         Go for it. - (ubernostrum) - Aug. 23, 2007, 02:49:22 PM EDT

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