Culinary vices anyone? I'll kill for a Sausage McGriddle

since the word "vice" predates the term "PC" by quite a long time.

Webster's 1828 (emphasis mine):

2. In ethics, any voluntary action or course of conduct which deviates from the rules of moral rectitude, or from the plain rules of propriety; any moral unfitness of conduct, either from defect of duty, or from the transgression of known principles of rectitude. Vice differs from crime, in being less enormous. We never call murder or robbery a vice; but every act of intemperance, all falsehood, duplicity, deception, lewdness and the like, is a vice. The excessive indulgence of passions and appetites which in themselves are innocent, is a vice. The smoking of tobacco and the taking of snuff, may in certain cases be innocent and even useful, but these practices may be carried to such an excess as to become vices. This word is also used to denote a habit of transgressing; as a life of vice. Vice is rarely a solitary invader; it usually brings with it a frightful train of followers.

Or were you merely pointing that out?

Pasta.

One of my Favorite Quickies for the Fam:

1# box of PASTA noodles
1 Standard Pasta Sauce Jar (the one about 4" in diameter about 8" tall)
1# Favorite (fake or real) cheese (I like a Moz/jack combo)
1 9x13 rectangle Baking Dish, Metal == better
Foil to cover (don't use a proper lid it seals to well)

Heat your oven to 350F
Pour Pasta, Sauce and 1 Jar of Water (re-fill the Pasta Jar) in the Baking dish. Mix it up. Cover with foil, making sure to seal it "okay" but not perfect, mainly to eliminate direct heat.

Bake 30 minutes, take out of oven, mixing in 2/3 the cheese into the pasta, 1/3 on top.Return uncovered to the oven for long enough to integrate and melt/brown the cheese (Don;t have to brown it if you don't wanna).

Remove from Oven. Enjoy.

I warn you, Don't think I am joking, Excellent Taste and nearly perfect oven baked goodness from a Pasta Dish. Tendency is to grab the WHOLE BLOOMING DISH, a Towel and sit in the living room watching TV... umm and enjoying the WHOLE DAM THING!!!! (Regret... NO, feeling like a Balloon, Yes!)

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Post #147,688 by FuManChu 3/23/04 12:15:11 AM Reply	Culinary vices anyone? I'll kill for a Sausage McGriddle
Post #147,690 by deSitter 3/23/04 12:25:51 AM Reply	Vice? So PC! There is no vice in eating, only regret in the middle. Just don't eat too much. And piss on low-carb 2-percent no-butter lite-ass diet-this low-cal-that venal narcissist whining asshole food Nazis. -drl
Post #147,706 by FuManChu 3/23/04 2:26:14 AM Reply	That interpretation is your own, since the word "vice" predates the term "PC" by quite a long time. Webster's 1828 (emphasis mine): 2. In ethics, any voluntary action or course of conduct which deviates from the rules of moral rectitude, or from the plain rules of propriety; any moral unfitness of conduct, either from defect of duty, or from the transgression of known principles of rectitude. Vice differs from crime, in being less enormous. We never call murder or robbery a vice; but every act of intemperance, all falsehood, duplicity, deception, lewdness and the like, is a vice. The excessive indulgence of passions and appetites which in themselves are innocent, is a vice. The smoking of tobacco and the taking of snuff, may in certain cases be innocent and even useful, but these practices may be carried to such an excess as to become vices. This word is also used to denote a habit of transgressing; as a life of vice. Vice is rarely a solitary invader; it usually brings with it a frightful train of followers. Or were you merely pointing that out?
Post #147,697 by Andrew Grygus 3/23/04 1:05:25 AM Reply	Well, actually, processed pig parts . . . . . most parts, most processes. Sausages of course, and smoked hocks, and head cheese (in a good one the slices of tongue, jowel, ears, snout and what have you are still quite identifiable) - and you just reminded me that I have a fresh jar of pickled pigs feet. Back in a bit. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #147,703 by pwhysall 3/23/04 1:59:57 AM Reply	Doner kebab with garlic sauce. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #147,715 by Meerkat 3/23/04 6:15:46 AM Reply	Aah..kebabs! I really OD'd on them when I was working at a place that had a kebab shop just 'round the corner. My favourite ended up being a chicken kebab with sweet chili sauce, sour cream, pineapple (!), and the usual salad and cheese. Sounds ghastly, but the taste? Divine! No wonder I stacked on the kilos in those years, though... John. Busy lad.
Post #147,720 by folkert 3/23/04 7:40:34 AM Reply	Nearly anything: Pasta. One of my Favorite Quickies for the Fam: 1# box of PASTA noodles 1 Standard Pasta Sauce Jar (the one about 4" in diameter about 8" tall) 1# Favorite (fake or real) cheese (I like a Moz/jack combo) 1 9x13 rectangle Baking Dish, Metal == better Foil to cover (don't use a proper lid it seals to well) Heat your oven to 350F Pour Pasta, Sauce and 1 Jar of Water (re-fill the Pasta Jar) in the Baking dish. Mix it up. Cover with foil, making sure to seal it "okay" but not perfect, mainly to eliminate direct heat. Bake 30 minutes, take out of oven, mixing in 2/3 the cheese into the pasta, 1/3 on top.Return uncovered to the oven for long enough to integrate and melt/brown the cheese (Don;t have to brown it if you don't wanna). Remove from Oven. Enjoy. I warn you, Don't think I am joking, Excellent Taste and nearly perfect oven baked goodness from a Pasta Dish. Tendency is to grab the WHOLE BLOOMING DISH, a Towel and sit in the living room watching TV... umm and enjoying the WHOLE DAM THING!!!! (Regret... NO, feeling like a Balloon, Yes!) -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The NTMFAC who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #147,725 by boxley 3/23/04 8:09:39 AM Reply	err, doesnt the pasta get crunchy unless you boil it first? "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,752 by folkert 3/23/04 9:38:28 AM Reply	Did you read the entire post. The extra water is for the Pasta. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The NTMFAC who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #147,763 by boxley 3/23/04 9:52:37 AM Reply	I understood the extra water but didnt think 1/2 hour was long enough to cook it. I do similar but boil the pasta, then mix the ingredients, shove in oven and bake. thanx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,773 by folkert 3/23/04 10:06:11 AM Reply	All it needs. And you'll be quite surprised as the pasta soaks up the Pasta Sauce Goodness. Never had anything like it, I have always had what you are describing. The description doesn't do it justice. I used to put in an extra cupe of water, but found that it always was to runny. The pasta comes out perfect. Total cook time ~40 Minutes though... after the cheese is added. I have tried is with the cheese in the whole time... and it basically turns into a big slab of pasta-sauce-cheese-bar. It is excellent that way, but the taste is far different and the wife-kids don't like it. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The NTMFAC who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #147,758 by admin 3/23/04 9:41:19 AM Reply	Well, if we took the bones out... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,759 by deSitter 3/23/04 9:43:03 AM Reply	Powered by carb-packing deboned pasta! -drl
Post #148,549 by lincoln 3/25/04 2:59:02 PM Reply	then it wouldn't be crunchy! lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #147,721 by admin 3/23/04 7:56:25 AM Reply	Two things: Pizzaria Combos[tm] :-) Peanut butter, cheese, lettuce, onion, sweet mustard, bologna, and whatever-else-I-find sandwiches. Fried. Yum. Same concept as a frittata, but on bread. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,828 by pwhysall 3/23/04 12:12:31 PM Reply	Bologna would be an honorary vegetable for you, then? :p Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #147,849 by admin 3/23/04 1:35:35 PM Reply	Made from soy pigs... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,861 by CRConrad 3/23/04 2:03:10 PM Reply	Soylent Pink? "Soylent Pink is made from pigs!", like...? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #147,875 by deSitter 3/23/04 2:31:01 PM Reply	Soylent pink is albino babies -drl
Post #147,731 by boxley 3/23/04 8:38:43 AM Reply	cud chewers burned over a wood flame pork is okay but I love wood fires and beef/moose/lamb/goat/reindeer parts singed black on the outside and red barely warm on the inside. thanx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,744 by bepatient 3/23/04 9:24:39 AM Reply	Fried bologna sandwiches. If you've never had...you must. Also, pork roll. Relatively new to me...I had never heard of it till moving to jersey. (as with scrapple)...but Taylor Pork Roll is the stuff of gods. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #147,765 by boxley 3/23/04 9:53:23 AM Reply	teryiaki canadian bacon=pork roll for those who havnt tried. "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,767 by Yendor 3/23/04 10:00:58 AM Reply	Yum.... You've just reminded me that I really need to find some pork roll out here in Chicagoland. So, there's this place in Hillsborough, NJ. They make a sandwich called a "Slider." 5 slices of fried (not deep-fried, but fried on a griddle) pork roll. 2-3 slices of melted cheese. One fried egg. Put it on a croissant, or a kaiser bun. Heaven. -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #147,777 by folkert 3/23/04 10:16:49 AM Reply	Slider?? Oh GOD... White Castle Sliders. How many can/do you eat at a setting? I REALLLLLY like the Jalapeno Cheese Versions. To bad I have to drive an hour to get them. Well not really, 20 is the maximum I have eaten at one time... a few years back. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The NTMFAC who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #148,551 by lincoln 3/25/04 3:01:46 PM Reply	The real question is... how many can you eat and not shit them out within the hour? In Chicago, White Castles aren't called "The Meat That Boogies" for nothing. lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #148,641 by folkert 3/25/04 8:43:30 PM Reply	And you wonder why they call them Sliders? Two reasons: 1. They slide in your mouth easily. 2. They slide farther than you think. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* 'In view of the fact that Microsoft is acondemned monopolist and on the other hand the internal messages andfinancial transactions of SCO look ever doubtful, Microsoft should bereally anxious that to the own company something does not remainsticking from the Gestank of the SCO.' --Plagarized from [link\|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169\|GROKLAW]
Post #147,780 by deSitter 3/23/04 10:27:02 AM Reply	That does sound good :) -drl
Post #147,778 by Andrew Grygus 3/23/04 10:23:57 AM Reply	Wish you hadn't reminded me of fried bologna sandwitches. That exploits my weakness for processed pig parts. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #148,550 by lincoln 3/25/04 2:59:58 PM Reply	on white bread or toast? lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #147,784 by boxley 3/23/04 10:44:13 AM Reply	chip buttee, fries or chips in heavily butter bread "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,837 by tjsinclair 3/23/04 12:54:39 PM Reply	A couple McDonalds breakfast - Sausage McMuffin, Bacon McGriddle and hash browns Swiss cheese and bologna on egg bagels (I'll accept wheat bagels if necessary) Pizza with swiss cheese topping. (Don't get this too often. It's been a while since I made my own pies.) Tom Sinclair "Man, I love it when the complete absence of a plan comes together." - [link\|http://radio.weblogs.com/0104634/\|Ernie the Attorney]
Post #147,853 by Silverlock 3/23/04 1:45:24 PM Reply	Bratwurst ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #148,009 by mmoffitt 3/23/04 9:45:19 PM Reply	Breakfast Jack, drool, drool, drool, ... I know, I'm sick. bcnu, Mikem The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism. - Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
Post #148,075 by deSitter 3/24/04 4:04:46 AM Reply	Jack in the Box This is actually a play on the Algonquin word "jacanibeqs" which means, "evil white-man food slathered with year-old cooking grease". Even the salads and sodas are greasy. You could use the tacos as fuel for tiki torches. The hamburger lettuce is probably made from reconsituted soybeans. Was that red thing a tomato slice? -drl
Post #148,082 by Steve Lowe 3/24/04 4:33:50 AM Reply	there went THAT craving. Thanks :) ----- Steve
Post #148,548 by lincoln 3/25/04 2:58:07 PM Reply	Doritos taco flavored torilla chips too bad they stopped selling them 20 years ago. An 8 oz bag, a can of soda, and a Saturday afternoon in front of the TV set. Tom's Foods in Columbus, GA sells a great taco flavored torilla chip, but the problem is distribution. They were available in Austin, TX around 4 years ago on a hit-or-miss basis, never seen them in Houston. Hell, locating them in Columbus, GA was far more difficult than expected. lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #148,671 by boxley 3/25/04 9:57:47 PM Reply	Fritolay Bean dip mmmmmm In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #148,676 by bepatient 3/25/04 10:20:32 PM Reply	Oh..reminds me... ...8 ounces of velveta melted into a can of beanless chili...spiced to taste and served as a dip for frito scoops. Get your own! Makes 1 serving ;-) If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #148,678 by boxley 3/25/04 10:21:59 PM Reply	ahh tooti frooti !!!! In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #148,784 by jake123 3/26/04 12:05:32 PM Reply	You must be in an alternative fuel project. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------

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