Vegans etc.

Post #147,314 by Andrew Grygus 3/20/04 7:19:02 PM Reply	Vegans etc. A whole lot of vegans would object strenuously to your definition. Their definition most certainly includes ethics and a determination not to inconvenience any animal ([link\|http://www.vegan.com/faq.php\|Vegan.com FAQ]). They maintain extensive lists of foods that include no animal products (by brand). Of course, you could separate "vegan diet" from "Vegan", but without the ethics I'd just class that as "vegetarian - no dairy". As for the Michio Kushi Macrobiotics stuff, I thought of including that but I haven't met one for so many years I just decided to see if anyone brought it up. It's based on brown rice, and anything that was not commonly eatin in pre-WWII Japan is simply not on the menu. Potatoes, tomatoes, chilis, tropical fruits, anything whatever spicy - definitely bad, bad, bad. A little fish is allowed for newbies. Chart at [link\|http://www.kushiinstitute.org/whatismacro.html\|Michio Kushi Institute]. Yes, ethics is optional for regular vegetarians (and the persistant claim that Adolf Hitler was an "ethical vegetarian" is not true). By your description, I'd classify you as "Tolerably Vegetarian". [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #147,315 by admin 3/20/04 7:22:58 PM Reply	Welp, since I used to be a non-ethical Vegan... ... I'd strenuously object to them objecting. ;-) Since we're talking about diet more than politics, I'd say that Vegan without ethics is entirely reasonable. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,319 by boxley 3/20/04 7:49:32 PM Reply	macrobiotics, is that like a Hari Krishna dinner? not bad on occation especially when funds are low. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,333 by Andrew Grygus 3/20/04 8:28:25 PM Reply	Don't know about other areas . . . . but back in the '70s food at the Los Angeles temple was damned good. Of course meat, fish, mushrooms, and all lilies (onion, garlic, etc.) and I think eggs, are strictly forbidden as offensive to Lord Krishna. In areas of India adhering to this diet, asafoetida is used as a replacement for onions and garlic. This is a stinking resin from a large member of the parsley family (the local name translates to "devil's dung" in most parts of the world). I've seen many food writers try to describe the smell and fail, but I can tell you exactly what it smells like - hot SAE 90W Hypoid gear oil. The reason is sulfur in both cases. I've got a pound of it and have tried it and it does a good job of adding pleasing complexity to the flavors of a vegetable dish, but you have to remember to stir it into hot oil to kill the smell. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #147,549 by Ashton 3/22/04 5:57:31 AM Reply	Right: fungi decidedly not satwic ;-) 'Course too, most of Murica is solidly in tamasic gunas 24/7. Oh well. Easy come - -
Post #147,605 by Andrew Grygus 3/22/04 8:45:21 PM Reply	It makes perfect sense . . . . . for a vegetarian agenda. As DNA genetecists have recently found, to their surprise and dismay, animals are actually an advanced from of fungus - slime molds that made good. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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