Post #14,465
10/21/01 7:41:19 PM
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VNC - am I missing something?
I'm trying to set up my grandparent's iopener so I can fix things over the internet. I've used VNC under windows so figured I'd use it under Linux; however, it seems the version under Linux works differently. Under Windows, the VNC display is the same display the user at the system sees. From what I'm reading about the Linux version, the VNC display is different than what the user sees.
If I'm fixing something, I'd like my grandparents to be able to see what I'm doing so they can fix it themselves next time. They've done things like accidently resize panes in window and not understand what they did or how to fix it.
Is VNC not the right tool for what I'm trying to do, or am I missing something?
Thanx!
Darrell Spice, Jr.
[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #14,467
10/21/01 7:47:28 PM
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Good question...
Though I've never done it...there is a -shared switch that should allow you to do it.
I'll have to give it a test and let you know...unless you get to it before me...should be couple of hours for me at the most.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
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Post #14,471
10/21/01 7:59:21 PM
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Update...
Well...it shares the X sessioin started with VNC fine...the problem I'm having is getting the server to share the existing X session.
I'm not altogether sure it can be done.
Imric is another VNC advocate...maybe he'll know. I'll have to give him a call.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
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Post #14,542
10/22/01 10:03:05 AM
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Another Update...
So I knew it possible but was stumped.
So I decided to hunt a little and found [link|http://www.hexonet.de/software/x0rfbserver/index.html|this] referenced as a way to send your normal Xdisplay...basically making Xvnc operate like the Win and Mac versions.
Have't tried it...but it was referenced from the ATT website FAQ.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #14,777
10/23/01 11:08:44 AM
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I'll try it tonight
was so tired last night that I went to bed after dinner. Had company over the weekend, we were up late visiting and watching movies and then up early for the [link|http://www.texasrenfest.com/|Texas Ren Fest].
Darrell Spice, Jr.
[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #14,938
10/24/01 10:32:29 AM
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no luck
there's no instructions for how to set it up and my limited Linux experience didn't lend itself to figure it out. Also it hasn't been updated in about a year so I suspect it's an abandoned project.
I was talking to my buddy who picked up 7.2 while we were at Fry's. He recommended taring the Netscape settings file and having a "Fix Netscape" script that restores it. He thinks that would restore the window panel sizes that my grandparents changed.
Darrell Spice, Jr.
[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #15,037
10/24/01 8:24:56 PM
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I'll take a look at it...
...won't help you in the short run cause it'll take me a while...
But if I get it set up I'll try and remember how I did it so I can tell you ;)
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #14,477
10/21/01 9:01:29 PM
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Yes, VNC under Linux is different under Windows.
I'm not sure what the original goals for VNC were, but the different architectures for Linux and Windows mean VNC gets used for different things on each. Because Windows can only have one desktop running at a time, VNC is a virtual keyboard and screen. But Linux supports multiple X servers and multiple simultaneous users properly; so VNC runs it's own session.
Doesn't greatly help your problem, I know, but there you are.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #14,484
10/21/01 9:20:42 PM
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It's different, but you can fix that
...just don't ask me for specifics.
Under legacy MS Windows there is only one display, so if you're going to export a display, you get the one and only. Linux supports multiple displays, the default is to give VNC a new one to deal with.
The trick then is to run X under VNC by default. My understanding is that this is what the svncviewer is for, but I've never got it to display correctly. Ben Tilly deals with vcn at work and may be a better source for information.
My standby has usually been to launch a vncserver session, a naked X session, and xvncviewer, maximized, under the X session.
In this configuration, you should be able to access the VNC session from another location.
Your other option is to let your grandparents run X and connect to the same session (export DISPLAY=$<their display -- usually host:0>). You can grab screenshots and such. It may even be possible to mirror the display, though I'm not aware of specific tools for doing this.
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Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #14,508
10/21/01 11:30:30 PM
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I would use your standby
Just remember to set your clients up so that when they connect, they are all in shared mode. Then you can have any number of clients connected to the same display at once.
And if you have some of them only view-only, well there is a tool for demos. :-)
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #14,503
10/21/01 10:48:47 PM
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for demo's we use a click along
everyone vnc's in gets a vanilla display then manually click along alltogether now. I dont know if this works but do a man on tee tee is a process than spawns two identical forks, I have only done this at the cli so dont know if X would handle it. typically process|tee tty1 tty2
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
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