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New Never had a problem with that here.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New It's not that it's buggy or junky
It's just too big a hole in a Windows system, and the way it installs prevents it from being very useful in the Windows framework anyway. You end up with a Siamese twin system.

There was some product called "UNIX for Windows" that was a better stab at an impossible problem. On Windows you're just stuck with a bad idiom so you might as well learn to think in Windese.

-drl
New I completely disagree.
Cygwin is a great tool, used daily here. What are your specific objections?
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: I completely disagree.
Whatever I used it for, I would think - why am I doing this from this Windows box? I'll just telnet from UNIX and do it there (mainly file moving and intranet updates). The better solution was to ditch the Windows server and put in Linux Samba DCs. I always had the feeling that any task that Cygwin was useful for, was not "essential" and could be done another way without maintaining a giant Cygwin goiter.

Then I just thought - well, I'll keep it because it's nice to have grep. But it was more useful to have a Win32 grep that ran from cmd.exe. I could never identify a reason to keep it around because the type of things it was good for, could be handled with console programs for Win32. It was better to know how to make minor mods to a Windows server to get some of the same usefulness of the CLI tools in Linux.

Bottom line - if your Windows server has become essentially dependent on Cygwin to work, why not replace it with a real Linux box? It's sort of the same argument against dual booting.
-drl
New I dunno
I use emx extensively (it's the posic compatibility layer for OS/2; you can get it from Hobbes). Mind you, you can use any of the tools from any shell, including cmd.exe...
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New Re: I dunno
Right, that was a little different because EMX seemed more tightly bound to the OS/2 idiom. No doubt this is because OS/2 is scriptable in the first place with REXX, and OS/2 has a native console mode. Plus, the compiler was nice to have around.
-drl
New It is nice to have around
in fact, for me, it's now completely necessary. My current project is porting the Hugs haskell interpreter, which unfortunately isn't going well due to some make file nastiness I haven't figured out yet.
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New And so you've answered my main objection
You have an essential use for it - that doesn't surprise me, because it was clear to me that EMX became a "part" of OS/2, not a pseudo-emulator. I think this says more about OS/2 than it does about EMX.
-drl
New BTW
If you have a makefile issue you can't figure out, bitter experience tells me to examine all the make default behaviors.
-drl
New Er...
1) Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just replace a Windows box. I wish. Our boxes are special purpose, not file servers or web servers.

2) The boxes aren't dependent on Cygwin to work. Cygwin is there for the tools.

3) bash beats cmd.exe any day of the century. As does find beat anything Windows can dish up.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Er...
I can't disagree with anything you say - but it's moot, because I'm coming from a philosophy that tells me to live in the system that you're living in.
-drl
     SFU - Use or not? - (broomberg) - (37)
         Re: SFU - Use or not? - (pwhysall)
         Isn't this the add-on... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Linux is different than Unix - (broomberg) - (1)
                 rofl - I love that guy -NT - (deSitter)
         Re: SFU - Use or not? - (deSitter) - (31)
             Never had a problem with that here. -NT - (admin) - (10)
                 It's not that it's buggy or junky - (deSitter) - (9)
                     I completely disagree. - (admin) - (8)
                         Re: I completely disagree. - (deSitter) - (7)
                             I dunno - (jake123) - (4)
                                 Re: I dunno - (deSitter) - (3)
                                     It is nice to have around - (jake123) - (2)
                                         And so you've answered my main objection - (deSitter)
                                         BTW - (deSitter)
                             Er... - (admin) - (1)
                                 Re: Er... - (deSitter)
             Huh? - (broomberg) - (3)
                 ARRGG!! - (broomberg)
                 I am not sure it's wise - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                     BTW, - (Arkadiy)
             Oh hush. - (pwhysall) - (15)
                 Re: Oh hush. - (deSitter) - (14)
                     It's worth having just for awk -NT - (pwhysall) - (10)
                         Or find. Or grep. Or ls. Or... -NT - (admin)
                         Re: It's worth having just for awk - (deSitter) - (8)
                             I see that. - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                 Re: I see that. - (deSitter) - (6)
                                     Well, Greg taught me - (broomberg) - (5)
                                         Re: Well, Greg taught me - (deSitter) - (3)
                                             Windows telnet server is unusably slow. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 ? how can a telnet server be "slow"? - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                     It can be slow... - (folkert)
                                         Bwahahaha, Love it. - (folkert)
                     Nothing special about windows shell - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                         Re: Nothing special about windows shell - (deSitter) - (1)
                             I was trying to say - (Arkadiy)
         Re: SFU - Use or not? - (orion)

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