Post #130,911
12/15/03 8:04:47 PM
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Get thee to Woody... and FAST.
You need to update to Woody ASAP...
Potato is no longer being updated or maintained.
Then install mailman. (upgrade it at the same time I'll bet)
Once done... then come back a talk:)
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Post #130,930
12/15/03 10:12:24 PM
12/16/03 12:04:46 PM
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Whoops - I am running Woody. My bad.
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #131,003
12/16/03 12:39:50 PM
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Sorry for the delay.
Mailman will not start until a few things are done. newlist mailman Editing /etc/aliases properly. Etc... Then you should prolly look in /usr/share/doc/mailman for more info... including html docs. It feels pretty straight forward. If you need more help holler! --
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[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
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Post #131,014
12/16/03 1:12:10 PM
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Got the docs, I'm on it.
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Post #131,024
12/16/03 1:48:29 PM
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Ok, more stupid questions time, re:MTA
Sounds like I need to configure an MTA (Mail Transfer Agent). Any suggestions?
When configuring Debian, I had the standard 5-part mail agent configuration question pop up (despite not having ever selected a MTA of any sort), to which I answered "5" - no configuration.
I have no idea what app that is, or how to get it to reconfigure. :P
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #131,026
12/16/03 1:50:59 PM
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That was exim.
Or, if you're lucky, exim4.
If it was the former, install the latter.
If it was the latter, try dpkg-reconfigure exim4.
-YendorMike
[link|http://www.hope-ride.org/|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
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Post #131,028
12/16/03 2:02:25 PM
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exim4 not on Debian Woody.
How important is exim4 versus exim? Version appears to be 3.35.
If needs be, I can pin an experimental version in, but this system has to be ROCK solid, no screwyness EVAR.
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #131,029
12/16/03 2:23:38 PM
12/16/03 2:24:19 PM
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APT how-to
[link|http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html|http://www.debian.or...h-apt-get.en.html]
Specifically sections 3.8-3.10
exim4 is in testing, so apt-get -t testing install exim4 should get ya going.
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Steve
Edited by Steve Lowe
Dec. 16, 2003, 02:23:53 PM EST
Edited by Steve Lowe
Dec. 16, 2003, 02:24:19 PM EST
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Post #131,032
12/16/03 3:02:10 PM
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Well, yeah...
...just trying to find out how bad exim is v.s. exim4.
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #131,035
12/16/03 3:18:57 PM
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Doh..
Well for that hopefully the GPSK (Greg, Peter, Scott, Karten (sigh)) collective will reply as I haven't got a clue :) I'm relatively new to running exim and as I'm using testing, exim4 is the default, thus the only one I've got any (read: miniscule) knowledge about. I misread your post, sorry about that.
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Steve
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Post #131,042
12/16/03 3:54:10 PM
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No sweat.
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Post #131,045
12/16/03 4:02:15 PM
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Unsure...
...There's some kinda word going around (ask Peter) about some problems with exim4 and SpamAssassin integration, but I'm not up on the details thereof. I've got work to do and such.
Meanwhile, I run exim4 at home as my only MTA. The *BIG* change that I noticed from exim (version 3.x) to exim4 is that instead of one huge-ass monolithic config file, there's a whole directory tree of smaller, more-easily-managed configs. This is a GOOD thing, as the exim3-style exim.conf was a fucking beast, and that's putting it nicely.
-YendorMike
[link|http://www.hope-ride.org/|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
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Post #131,140
12/17/03 3:14:24 AM
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Exim4 metaconfig
What's in /etc/exim4 is a Debianism.
The actual config is generated by the update-exim4.conf script which parses the /etc/exim4/ tree and places the resultant monolithic config file in /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated. The init scripts execute the exim4 daemon, specifying this config file.
This is a good thing - just don't automatically expect to see it on other distributions or operating systems.
For Thane: Exim3 is no longer maintained; critical security bugs will be fixed, but the current version of Exim is 4.
[link|http://www.exim.org|http://www.exim.org] <-- read the FAQ.
Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
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Post #131,170
12/17/03 9:50:51 AM
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I prefer it this way...
I have taken this piece and moved it into an RPM I made for Redhat 7.2+
It is absolutely the single most brilliant config break down I have seen yet of nearly any package.
Apache 1.3.29 in Sid appears to be being done the same way.
Awesome.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
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Post #131,065
12/16/03 6:00:11 PM
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You won't get any help from anyone on Exim 3
Everyone who can answer any quesitons you might have moved to 4 long ago. Only Debian stable is still on 3. Get 4.
I was one of the original authors of VB, and *I* wouldn't use VB for a text
processing program. :-) Michael Geary, on comp.lang.python
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Post #131,144
12/17/03 5:19:47 AM
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I would recommend Courier.
Whilst I have had no experience configuring exim, I have had experience with postfix and qmail. Courier wins, hands-down. apt-get install courier. The configuration files have documentation comments in them and man courier works :-). The version in Woody is recent enough.
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #130,948
12/16/03 5:20:46 AM
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I'd recommend The Hun
or maybe Thumbzilla, if the Thanester needs to get himself to a woody fast.
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca] [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post #130,984
12/16/03 12:04:53 PM
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/me beats Jake with a big stick.
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Post #130,985
12/16/03 12:05:11 PM
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Ouch! Bad Pun... BAD PUN.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
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Post #131,039
12/16/03 3:49:10 PM
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Glad to be of service to all of you:)
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca] [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post #131,041
12/16/03 3:54:00 PM
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Worst part about it...
...is I didn't know what those two were, and googled for them FROM WORK...
Luckily, I didn't click "I'm feeling lucky" - 'cause I wouldn't have been.
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #131,044
12/16/03 3:56:42 PM
12/16/03 4:17:01 PM
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Dupe, ignore
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca] [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Edited by jake123
Dec. 16, 2003, 04:17:01 PM EST
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Post #131,048
12/16/03 4:16:34 PM
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Wow
Let's see, you've been on the 'net for years, and have never heard of The Hun? The Hun manages to routinely beat Yahoo in hits...
Are you male?
gd&rfc
Oh well, not as dangerous as the time CRC put the link to analasians.com behind the text string "Google".
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca] [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post #131,049
12/16/03 4:27:30 PM
12/16/03 4:27:54 PM
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Check.
Male, check.
Sexual orientation, straight.
Interest in attractive females, v. high.
Interest in porn: Zero.
Dunno. Might have been my upbringing or something.
Or it could be that virtually every single porn girl I've ever seen is an ugly skanky ho IMO.
I have a blue sign on my door. It says "If this sign is red, you're moving too fast."
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Post #131,236
12/17/03 2:30:18 PM
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Have I ever done that ???
Le maitre des Consultations Throughton reminisces: Oh well, not as dangerous as the time CRC put the link to analasians.com behind the text string "Google". Whu, me??? Where, when? (Not here on zIWT, unless I'm really bungling my attempts to use the search function...?)
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Resident [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=119792|zIWETHEY pilkunnussija]
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Post #131,237
12/17/03 2:32:06 PM
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bungholing your attempts to use the search engine?
stick a spork in it.
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #131,742
12/21/03 12:41:05 PM
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Yes you have
I remember it quite clearly, because I clicked on the link while at work. This would have been three or four years ago, prolly back in the ezboard days.
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca] [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post #132,456
12/27/03 7:27:09 AM
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Oh. Um, ah... Sorry 'bout that.
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