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New My government considers me a security risk
Because I worked in France dont'cha know. Bits of letter from recruiter:

You were rejected because you have worked in France. Must be an obvious security risk.

They have a lengthy security questionaire. They do drug tests. This position requires a goverment clearance-- to be eligible for clearance all candidates must be: US citizens.



"I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone."

     -- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 12:42:27 PM EDT
New Never again
I'll never EVER, for any reason OTHER than a Mars mission, and ONLY at NASA, work for the government in ANY capacity. I did that gig in the 80s and I detested it.
-drl
New Re: Never again
I'll never EVER, for any reason OTHER than a Mars mission, and ONLY at NASA, work for the government in ANY capacity. I did that gig in the 80s and I detested it.


Ditto, only not even at NASA or a Mars Mission. Mine was in the 90's.

Nightowl >8#

"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

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New Mine was in the 70's. Do I win?
And I agree with you both.
jb4
"There are two ways for you to have lower Prescription-drug costs. One is you could hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper ... or you can elect me President."
John Kerry
New Re: Mine was in the 70's. Do I win?
I programmed the graphics for a battlefield simulation. When a red splotch appeared during a demo, the Navy guy asked "what's that red spot?" I blurted out without thinking "the apple of some mother's eye just got turned into hamburger." Icy stare from my supervisor.
-drl
New Reminds me of a famous simulator story...
[link|http://www.wtblock.com/resume/code_reuse.htm|http://www.wtblock.c...me/code_reuse.htm]

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New There were many similar anecdotes
going around at Smalltalk Solutions from the developers of JWARS (military simulation package written in VisualAge Smalltalk).

[link|http://www.informs-cs.org/wsc01papers/091.PDF|http://www.informs-c...c01papers/091.PDF]

Things like birds refusing to take off until given clearance because the flying code was reused from the airplanes, soldiers being creamed because their vision was 180 degrees misaligned and so forth.




"I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone."

     -- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 12:46:02 PM EDT
New too funny!
Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
New Even as a contractor?
Us Federal Contractors get seen as greedy corporate types by the Pseduo-Socialist Federal Employees, they think we are out to take away their nice cushy jobs. The truth is that if they did their jobs to begin with there wouldn't be a need for Federal Contractors. So many duffers out there when I worked for the Army base on Goodfellow. Always leaving early to play Golf, or reading the Newspaper, or chatting with each other, emailing jokes, etc. Part of my job was to update aviation parts databases and in order to do that I had to navigate a web interface from another base and download the data. It took hours to do so sometimes and it was like an 800 Meg flat-file that needed to be imported into Oracle and Access databases. One Duffer was walking by and reported that I always had a web browser open for hours at a time. Yes I did in order to do my job and download the data. After I left that job for a job at the law firm, that same Duffer got busted for surfing porn on his workstation. Many of them did. I was friends with a manager that worked there and told me what happened. The CID investigated me but found I did nothing wrong. I got insulted that people would do that sort of thing to me, and also the base was moving to Huntsvilla Alabama, so I decided to find a new job.

Sometimes I wonder if I'd still have a job if I stayed on and moved to Huntsville? They tried to replace me, but couldn't find anyone qualified to stay at the job.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New PARTICULARLY not as a contractor
-drl
New Fun while it lasted
I learned a lot about Oracle and HPUX while I worked there. I even worked with an IBM 4381 mainframe and got data from it into databases.

CID investigation showed everything I did, from accessing the database I should have, to downloading MSAccess updates from Microsoft, to Oracle and IBM knowledge bases, and other computer related web sites. No misuse of the Internet was shown. I think that Duffer guy got investigated himself for wasting the CID's time. :)

I had two computers and the one I was doing the downloading from had the browser open so I could see the status of the download and start it again in case it timed out. I was working on the other one, and monitoring the download on the first at the same time.

Heck I even learned Clipper, not that it is of any use to me now or in the future. :)



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New I'll take it!
Been trying to get on with Raytheon for some time now.

Perfect background. Never been out of the country. No close foreign friends. No arrests. Honest as the day is long. Sunday school teacher.

But, because I've never worked for a defense company before (and therefore have never applied for a clearance), I don't qualify.

Just rejections.

Glen Austin
New Only one thing really matters
Are you in serious debt - risk of subtrefuge for money.

Raise some hell, that'll get you in faster. You think you're dealing with schoolboys?

PS - you don't want in. Not if you value your soul.

-drl
New Credit
I can pass just fine there, too. We're not deeply in debt.

As for "selling your soul", I would say that's pretty much every job in America these days, not just defense.

Glen
New Typecasting
The other big drawback to defense work - you get cast as a defense worker.

The last Bush economic rapine - DoD work went out the window in the late 80s -
taught me that. No one would touch me for a year or so. "You're a defense
worker." Don't know why this is true...

See the movie "Falling Down" :)
-drl
New Saw It, Related To It
I was working at SABRE at the time, there were days I certainly felt like Michael Douglas.

It appears I'll be staying in the "pharmacy track". I got a call from the director of the company I interviewed with ( 2 "in person" interviews, 2 phone ), and they are pleased to present me with an offer.

I won't call back tonight, got the VM at about 8pm. But, if they're true to form, it will be a 10% pay cut (on top of the 10% pay cut I just took), on top of the 10% I took in 2001. So, if the offer holds true, I'll be down 30% from what I made in 2001 before being laid off. I guess I should be thankful?

Glen Austin
New Re: Saw It, Related To It
Medical software of any kind is where it's at for stability. Good move.

And in some way, you might be helping someone. When I was a DoD worker, I sometimes could not drink off my mind the shit I was doing for money.
-drl
     My government considers me a security risk - (tuberculosis) - (16)
         Never again - (deSitter) - (9)
             Re: Never again - (Nightowl) - (5)
                 Mine was in the 70's. Do I win? - (jb4) - (4)
                     Re: Mine was in the 70's. Do I win? - (deSitter) - (3)
                         Reminds me of a famous simulator story... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             There were many similar anecdotes - (tuberculosis)
                             too funny! -NT - (SpiceWare)
             Even as a contractor? - (orion) - (2)
                 PARTICULARLY not as a contractor -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Fun while it lasted - (orion)
         I'll take it! - (gdaustin) - (5)
             Only one thing really matters - (deSitter) - (4)
                 Credit - (gdaustin) - (3)
                     Typecasting - (deSitter) - (2)
                         Saw It, Related To It - (gdaustin) - (1)
                             Re: Saw It, Related To It - (deSitter)

The OldManFu MoJo you got is impressive.
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