My windowmanager setup seems to be borked, ideas?

Post #124,801 by ben_tilly 11/9/03 1:48:53 PM Reply	My windowmanager setup seems to be borked, ideas? After a GNOME upgrade a while ago I began running into problems where only the GNOME windowmanagers would run from GDM. The others (specifically fvwm2) would exit in less than 10 seconds with ~/.xsession-errors complaining about imwheel already running (and not much else there). I would just shrug and log in to one of those, and then switch to fvwm2. After various upgrades, I had to restart yesterday. And how is this for frustrating? The ONLY window manager that doesn't exit immediately is named GNOME. (Note, the one called Sawfish dies as well...) GNOME's menus that I can find don't give me any ability to launch programs. The only solution that I have found so far is that it starts several command prompts. I can use those to killall sawfish a few times until it doesn't restart itself, and then I can run fvwm2 from the command prompt. If this problem gets worse, then I won't be able to login with any window manager... Ideas? (I'm on Debian testing.) More information. At this point I don't have .xsession-errors (because restarting my window manager wiped it out) but ~/.gnomesession-errors has this which looks like what I remember ~/.xsession-errors having: `WARNING: imwheel is not checking/writing a pid file, BE CAREFUL! An imwheel may be running already. Two or more imwheel processes on the same X display, INFO: imwheel started (pid=716) /home/tilly/.imwheelrc: No such file or directory` Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #124,806 by deSitter 11/9/03 2:34:36 PM Reply	Re: My windowmanager setup seems to be borked, ideas? [link\|http://jonatkins.org/imwheel/\|http://jonatkins.org/imwheel/] [link\|http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/imwheel.html\|http://packages.debi...tils/imwheel.html] Do you have a device /dev/gpmwheel? Is the gpm console mouse driver running? -drl
Post #124,813 by kmself 11/9/03 5:38:37 PM 11/10/03 12:23:00 AM Reply	Remove imwheel Concensus from several points seems to be "you don't need it". Configure your X server with scroolwheel support (`dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`) and pretty much all apps should be happy. If necessary, it's trivial to reinstall the package. You tried this yet? --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n Edited by kmself Nov. 10, 2003, 12:23:00 AM EST Expand All History
Post #124,865 by ben_tilly 11/9/03 11:31:30 PM Reply	No good Removing imwheel means that X-related stuff crashes faster. Using dpkg-reconfigure means that I have to figure out how to get my video card working with Debian. I have a working setup, but it doesn't use Debian's infrastructure for managing X11. Before when I looked at it, it wasn't at all obvious how it was working, and I have received "help" emails from others who are trying to figure out how to do it. Therefore I don't want to start down that path until I get desperate... I'm playing with manually adjusting imwheel usage now. Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #124,866 by deSitter 11/9/03 11:35:38 PM Reply	Advice No matter how perfect apt is, XFree is a black art. Try running the script "xf86config" - it's text oriented - step by step - and never fails to make a workable X configuration. If you've entered the world of X binary incompatibilies - my prayers are with you :) Currently I'm trying to modify the Cirrus server code - X is a huge, ugly mess - amazing it works so well most of the time. -drl
Post #124,908 by ben_tilly 11/10/03 10:23:38 AM Reply	I have had xf86config fail And so I prefer not to go there while there is a choice. Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #124,912 by pwhysall 11/10/03 10:33:48 AM Reply	Try X -configure Attempts to generate a usable config file automatically. xf86config is deprecated. Any further discussion of this will require you posting your hardware list, XF86 startup logs, and /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #124,913 by folkert 11/10/03 10:39:59 AM Reply	I want you to try this: apt-get remove --purge gpm (and the other stuff it uses, like imwheel and so on) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 select the apropos device for you mouse (if it is USB /dev/inpu/mice, PS/2 /dev/aux, etc...) then re-write your conf... Goto CTRL-ALT-F1 and login (as root or you and su to root) /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; /etc/init.d/gdm start or whichever Display Manager you use. That should take care of your issue. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey*

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