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New U.S. May Expand Access To Endangered Species
"The Bush administration is proposing far-reaching changes to conservation policies that would allow hunters, circuses and the pet industry to kill, capture and import animals on the brink of extinction in other countries.

Giving Americans access to endangered animals, officials said, would feed the gigantic U.S. demand for live animals, skins, parts and trophies, and generate profits that would allow poor nations to pay for conservation of the remaining animals and their habitat..."

Above from the Washington Post:
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A10660-2003Oct10?language=printer|http://www.washingto...?language=printer]

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New Why not? Only two to reproduce. Ooops, 2 (fe)males, sorry.
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the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever."
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New The biggest problem I see
I have no moral problem with allowing hunting and other means of using these animals.

The problem I see is that for this too work the plan for how many animals can be killed must be very carefully laid out. And odds are against that being done, particularly if they let people in the exploitation buisness determine how many.

Jay
New Why I am against this
Allowing any trade in endangered species makes it harder to tell whether a given person trading in that endangered species is doing so illegally.

For instance if I have a license to trade 10 animals, then I could try to smuggle in 10 of them. If I get caught, I say, "So sorry, here is my paperwork, I just didn't know who to turn them in to." If I don't get caught, then I go import another 10.

Additionally if there is some legal trade, then smuggled items go up in value because they can now be sold to legitimate stores. The legitimate stores each say that THEIR stuff is legitimate. Looking at the aggregate sales, someone must be lying. Perhaps it was the store. Perhaps it was a poacher who convinced the store as above that, Sure, I have a license for these animals, look right here. 10 animals. You cleaned me out this year! From a law enforcement point of view, even if you figured out who is probably in the wrong, proving it in court is going to be an uphill battle.

An absolute ban works because it makes enforcement easy. You remove all of the shades of grey - if you're selling endangered animals or their parts, you are in the wrong.

I believe that it was concerns exactly like this one which originally lead conservationists to push for absolute bans rather than limited trade. The move back to limited trade is not good. (Doubly so if it is initiated and pushed by people who don't care about the difficulties of enforcement because they don't care about actually seeing this enforced.)

Cheers,
Ben
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New Analogous to 'clean'/dirty diamonds - and as unpoliceable.
     U.S. May Expand Access To Endangered Species - (Fuat) - (4)
         Why not? Only two to reproduce. Ooops, 2 (fe)males, sorry. -NT - (jbrabeck)
         The biggest problem I see - (JayMehaffey)
         Why I am against this - (ben_tilly) - (1)
             Analogous to 'clean'/dirty diamonds - and as unpoliceable. -NT - (Ashton)

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