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New Rewrite the whole thing
Personally I would like to rewrite the entire constitution, both to update some of the language and fix various problems. Unfortunatly, it won't work because in the current environment any attempt to do so would hopeless mess things up.

If we let the current crop of politicians, lawyers, and lobbists rewrite the first admendment it would probably end up being 10 paragraphs long and define seperate rules for political, commercial, religious, government, and non-profit speech. Private speech would have been dropped from the list as not important enough to cover though.

Jay
New Fine as it is, just make admendments instead.
Our founding fathers allowed admendments to be make to address future issues. Let the document stand as it is and make admendments to it.



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New Gradualism

I'm a firm proponent of this principle whether in law or elsewhere.

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The problem, of course, is that you're left with the current brain-death for a long time. The advantage is that you're not replacing it with tomorrow's brain death in one swell foop. There are clearly a great many things about current law and constitution which could be changed. Ensuring that the changes I want are the ones adopted is the problem. Stretching out the processes, given a reasonably good start, means that the process is considered, and the incremental damage is small.

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New Only goes so far
Gradualism only goes so far, because history shows that political systems accumulate errors at a faster rate then they can be corrected.

Eventually you get either a revolution or a collapse.

I'm not sure we are at that point yet, but I'm not nearly as optimistic as I used to be about it.

Jay
New ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #121806 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=121806|ICLRPD]
     I don't want ANYONE touching amendments. - (admin) - (5)
         Rewrite the whole thing - (JayMehaffey) - (4)
             Fine as it is, just make admendments instead. - (orion)
             Gradualism - (kmself) - (2)
                 Only goes so far - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (Another Scott)

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