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New Is it astroturf if it comes down the chain of command?

Yes.

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New Down the chain of command? From a platoon sergeant?
That's stretching the point more than a bit, don'cha think?

And the fact reamins, those who went along say they meant it. It's called SINCERITY. And that is NOT astroturf.

Shame on you. Our soldiers in Iraq have a right to disagree with you, and to express that disagreement, singularly, or in unison. It's called free speech, and there's nothing you can do about it.

The right to dissent cuts both ways.

[Silly me. Can't tell a platoon sergeant from a staff sergeant.]
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DEAL WITH IT.
Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11.
"I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
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Expand Edited by marlowe Oct. 13, 2003, 09:41:59 AM EDT
New Does a Lt. Col count?

She was right. Her son didn't write the letter. In an e-mail to ABCNEWS today, the commander of the battalion, Lt. Col. Dominic Caraccilo, said the "letter-writing initiative" was all his idea.

Caraccilo said he circulated the form letter to his soldiers to give them "an opportunity to let their respective hometowns know what they are accomplishing here in Kirkuk. As you might expect, they are working at an extremely fast pace and getting the good news back home is not always easy. We thought it would be a good idea to encapsulate what we as a battalion have accomplished since arriving Iraq and share that pride with people back home."

Caraccilo wrote that his staff drafted the letter, he edited it and reviewed it and then offered it to the soldiers. "Every soldier who signed that letter did so after a careful read," he said. "Some, who could find the time, decided to send their own versions, while others chose not to take part in the initiative."

Caraccilo was unapologetic, saying that the letter "perfectly reflects what each of these brave soldiers has and continues to accomplish on the ground."


[link|http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/World/iraq031013_letters-1.html| ABC News ]
New Re: Does a Lt. Col count?
Still planning to give this one a slot on your "Iraq Lies page," Little Phil, or shall we pretend it never happened?

Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
New No, it still gets a slot.
My main point remains valid, and yours remains bogus.

It's not astroturf if it's sincere. But what do you know about sincerity? "Sincere" is just a word to such as you.

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DEAL WITH IT.
Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11.
"I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
New Prove sincerity
That is, prove the state of another's mind.
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New Deliciously bogus, Phil. Of a piece w/the rest of you.
New Sincere like this?
"You are to send this Sincere letter that I and my senior staff have drafted back to your hometown paper. This is a Sincere order!"
jb4
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New Follow-up from USA - it was 500 letters....

Army officials revealed Tuesday that 500 identical form letters were sent to newspapers across the country with different signatures. They said the mass mailing was the wrong way of getting the message out, but they didn't know whether the commander would be disciplined.

[...]

MacDonald said no one was forced to sign the letter, though most did. At least one soldier contacted by Gannett News Service said he never signed the letter that appeared in his hometown newspaper in Charleston, W.Va. Several parents also said they knew their sons had not written the letters that appeared in local newspapers. The letter appeared in at least a dozen newspapers, according to a Gannett News Service search.
[link|http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-10-14-letters-usat_x.htm| USA Today ]

Grassroots form letter...uh, yeah, cough.
New No, they're sincere! Marlowe said so!
After all, he's got the inside track on people's mental states: behaviour be damned.

Even the one by the guy that said he never signed such a letter. But really, he was sincere, because Little Phil's all-seeing eye knows that he meant what he didn't (actually) say.
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     Astroturf campaign caught - (JayMehaffey) - (12)
         I see a M$ New Account here..__ practice__practice__practice -NT - (Ashton)
         And we know who did it: a bunch of soldiers - (marlowe) - (10)
             Is it astroturf if it comes down the chain of command? - (kmself) - (9)
                 Down the chain of command? From a platoon sergeant? - (marlowe) - (8)
                     Does a Lt. Col count? - (Simon_Jester) - (7)
                         Re: Does a Lt. Col count? - (rcareaga) - (4)
                             No, it still gets a slot. - (marlowe) - (3)
                                 Prove sincerity - (jake123)
                                 Deliciously bogus, Phil. Of a piece w/the rest of you. -NT - (rcareaga)
                                 Sincere like this? - (jb4)
                         Follow-up from USA - it was 500 letters.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                             No, they're sincere! Marlowe said so! - (jake123)

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