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Barry has broken most if not all of Bobby Bond's records and he (Bobby) was being interviewed during the SF/SP series recently talking about how proud he was that Barry was breaking his records.

Barry hasn't disgraced his father but honored him in the best way possible; going on to exceed his achievements
Jay O'Connor

"Going places unmapped
to do things unplanned
to people unsuspecting"
New Like him or not..
..he's still one of the top ten players to ever have played the game.

Look at the stats.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Yup!
Like him? I don't like him or dislike him...I don't even know him. I respect him as a player because he is one of the greats.

Jay O'Connor

"Going places unmapped
to do things unplanned
to people unsuspecting"
New Even His Teammates Can't Stand Him
The name of the game in baseball is *hustle* - everyone who has ever played has this drilled into his head constantly. Bonds does not hustle. Ever. Being "a great" is a hell of a lot more than numbers. True, his talent is incredible, but IMO that's canceled by his lousy attitude.

OTOH I can completely respect someone like Ty Cobb, a nasty SOB, or Pete Rose, who bet on games. They played 110% all the time, in every game. Rose would sprint to 1st after a walk. It was exhilirating to watch him play.

New Never seen...
Bonds tank a play. Never. The problem with talent like his is that it makes everything he does look easy.

Watch Robby Alomar sometime. Then watch another 2nd baseman. Alomar can make plays on balls that no other 2nd baseman could even reach...but he does it so easily it looks like slow motion.

Sure Bonds is an arrogant SOB. Almost every marquis athlete in his generation is an arrogant SOB. It seems to come with the territory in modern sport.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New No
Fernando Vina.

Chipper Jones.

Brian Jordan.

Derek Jeter.

David Justice.

Need I say more?
New Wondering re such 'talents'.. how they come about.
Idiot savant? Yes, that's an extreme case, but - is it possible that many sports luminaries ('hero' can never again be applied to such dilettantes, we see - that much changed on 9/11) -- are simply deficient in the normal social sensibilities? One-note Johnnys (or Barrys) and *this* happens to be that one note?

Remember, lotsa folks in school never made even the mediocre cliques, were always awkward. Many, later of course - found out how utterly mindless, ovine and silly were those cliques: and got some moxie on their own..

But some never quite get the hang of homo-sap duplicity, glad-handing and other deceptions. Is that enough reason to maybe give the Bonds of the world (and the Dimaggios?) a bit of a break - even some sympathy, perhaps?




Ashton
     Barry Bonds breaks record! - (Silverlock) - (15)
         And... - (Fearless Freep)
         Go Bonds Go - (wharris2) - (13)
             Re: Go Bonds Go - (Fearless Freep)
             You Missed It - (deSitter) - (11)
                 Nay, I say. - (Yendor) - (10)
                     Nay part II - (Fearless Freep) - (6)
                         Like him or not.. - (bepatient) - (5)
                             Yup! - (Fearless Freep) - (4)
                                 Even His Teammates Can't Stand Him - (deSitter) - (3)
                                     Never seen... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                         No - (deSitter)
                                         Wondering re such 'talents'.. how they come about. - (Ashton)
                     Stand Corrected - (deSitter) - (1)
                         Cubs came close in '84 - (wharris2)
                     scratching head about cubs - (wharris2)

Obeying the Law of Gravity since 2001.
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