Post #118,049
9/17/03 4:53:59 PM
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But, this is America.
The home of "watch what you say, watch what you do". And I thought you were paying attention.
bcnu, Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #118,543
9/23/03 9:48:19 AM
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Or, as my former boss put it:
"There is a price for telling the truth".
But, this is America. He was heckled out of the room. Boy was everybody pissed.
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One Buffalo Bill And one Biffalo Buff
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Post #118,692
9/24/03 9:40:44 AM
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How long ago was that?
I can barely remember when it was offensive to suggest that truth has no place in America.
bcnu, Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #118,761
9/24/03 11:19:48 PM
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About a year ago.
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One Buffalo Bill And one Biffalo Buff
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Post #118,889
9/25/03 3:58:39 PM
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Oh yeah, you're in ...
New York aren't you? There are still Americans (as opposed to armband brandishing, jack-booted Muricans) there iirc.
bcnu, Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #118,892
9/25/03 5:28:08 PM
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As they say: New York is not America.
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One Buffalo Bill And one Biffalo Buff
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Post #118,994
9/26/03 9:51:00 AM
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Neither is the Left Coast (where I'm from ;-)
bcnu, Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #119,066
9/26/03 12:47:41 PM
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And here on the Southern Left Coast . .
. . we aren't even part of the continent, geologically or politically speaking.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #119,075
9/26/03 1:04:17 PM
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Yeah, we are a bit out to sea
And every so often have trouble from rubbing the continent the wrong way.
Cheers, Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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