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New Spy plane's crew left secrets behind

The crew of a Navy spy plane that landed on China's Hainan Island in April 2001 after colliding with a Chinese fighter jet did not destroy all classified materials aboard, and it is "highly probable" that some fell into Chinese hands, Navy investigators concluded.

[...]

It also found that "destruction of all classified materials onboard did not occur," and concluded that "compromise by the People's Republic of China of undestroyed classified material on PR-32 is highly probable and cannot be ruled out." PR-32 was the mission designation of the U.S. plane.

[link|http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2094490|link]

lincoln

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New No surprise to me
Republicans have been giving the Chinese Top-Secret stuff for years.
New Is that anything like...
...Clinton allowing the transfer of tech that let the CHinese build ICBMs that they can >aim< now?

Face it...that was an idiotic statement. The Repo's haven't been in power until recently...unless your contention is that the Reagan government gave them classified tech...

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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New Oh really?
You do know about [link|http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/04/27/lieberman.leung/| Katrina Leung ] right?


Katrina Leung is a Chinese American native of Los Angeles, California who is a businesswoman and an accused spy. Leung has earned degrees from Cornell University and the University of Chicago, and is an important figure in the Los Angeles Chinese-American community, having helped raise money for the campaigns of several prominent Republican party candidates. In the early 1980s she was recruited by the FBI's Los Angeles office chief of Chinese counter-intelligence, James J. Smith, and given the code name "Parlor Maid". Working with Smith, Leung became a valued information asset and was paid $1.7 million for her services over the years.

Eventually Leung and Smith, both married, began a 20 year sexual affair. Leung had access to classified FBI documents Smith would bring to their trysts, and in early 2003 was arrested and charged with working as a double agent for the People's Republic of China government. FBI officials say they will have to re-evualate a decade's worth of counter-intelligence work as a result of the charges against her. Smith has been arrested and charged with gross negligence. Leung also had an affair with William Cleveland Jr., a former FBI agent and chief of counter-intelligence at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

Since her arrest, Leung's family has maintained her innocence, and in a press statement compared her plight to nuclear physicist Wen Ho Lee, who after being accused of nuclear espionage, was eventually acquitted of all major charges.
[link|http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katrina_Leung| Wipkipedia Source ]

She was only caught with Nuclear Secrets in her safe by the FBI. (No idea HOW they got there.)

Yepperz...Bad Democrats.
New Giving or taking?
Even if guilty...a spy usually >takes< things...as opposed ot the voluntary handing over of crucial info.

And in your link it speaks of "prominent" candidates...whereas [link|http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1998_rpt/sgo-sir/2-18.htm|here] you have the most prominent candidate. In addition, you have convictions and runaways.

And you don't need to be all that smart to [link|http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/mostert.html|connect] some of the dots.

So lets not lean too far off of that partisan ledge. Your footing isn't likely to be that good.
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New There are such things as double agents.
Which is what she's accused of.

Giving things, eh?


The document at the heart of the case is a copy of a June 12, 1997, FBI memorandum found in Leung's home concerning Chinese fugitives that also "discussed reporting of national defense information by a confidential FBI source," the Justice Department said.

But investigators seized other sensitive materials found during consensual searches of her home, including a transcript of telephone conversations between Leung, whose Chinese government code name was "Luo," and a Chinese official, whose name was "Mao," court documents said.

During interviews with the FBI, Leung admitted to copying documents from Smith's briefcase, but said he did not know she was doing so, investigators said. She also said, however, that he would allow her to review documents without copying them.

Smith acknowledged in interviews with the FBI that he had "probably told Leung too much" in the course of operating her as an intelligence asset.

According to two affidavits totaling 60 pages, Smith and Leung have been secretly monitored since last summer as part of a foreign counterintelligence investigation that included the use of wiretaps, physical surveillance and clandestine searches.
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A1607-2003Apr9¬Found=true| Washington Post 4-10-2003]

Yeah..er...right...er...whatever.

Oh...and given that Chinese Connection report. Smith was Leung's handler.


Smith also was arrested Wednesday. He was among the FBI agents who had investigated whether China illegally tried to channel money into the 1996 presidential election.
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5692-2003Apr10¬Found=true| WashingtonPost 4-11-2003 ]

In the late 1990s, Smith served as the FBI contact or "handler" for Johnny Chung, the Chinese American businessman who was central to the Democratic fundraising scandal that plagued the Clinton administration. Smith has hired the same defense attorney, Brian Sun, who represented Chung.
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A1607-2003Apr9¬Found=true| Washington Post 4-10-2003]

Curiouser and curiouser.

So, let's play connect the dots, shall we?

  • We've got a double-agent sleeping with her "handler" and getting his reports.
  • Suddenly there's all this evidence her "handler" is turning up that says the PRC is trying to influence Presidential Elections.
  • Meanwhile, our double-agent is raising funds for Republican candidates.
  • Oh, and she was also [link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5634-2003Apr10¬Found=true| sleeping ] with the head of counter-security over at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. That's a nuclear-weapons lab. (For those of you wonder how China got those nuclear weapons secrets..)


(Oh...and I'm on a slippery slope, eh?)
Yepperz...to paraphrase your Reagan Information Exchange - "Bad Democrats".
Expand Edited by Simon_Jester Sept. 12, 2003, 08:50:49 PM EDT
New Sounds like those pesky Chinese...
..were pretty darn successful at buying our entire government during the 90's.

Shame.

Looks like you can't even be partisan about it...which is...again...my point.
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New Either that....
or she was misleading/planting evidence to implicate those the Chinese couldn't buy.

So maybe only half the government was bought.

So...perhaps I can be partisan about it.
New Thats awfully thin....
...but if you choose to live in an alternate reality...at least you've made a choice.
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New We're all Corp Republicrats now. Vivent la diff\ufffdrence!
New Vive la diff\ufffdrence... tabernac!
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     Spy plane's crew left secrets behind - (lincoln) - (11)
         No surprise to me - (Simon_Jester) - (10)
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                 Oh really? - (Simon_Jester) - (8)
                     Giving or taking? - (bepatient) - (7)
                         There are such things as double agents. - (Simon_Jester) - (6)
                             Sounds like those pesky Chinese... - (bepatient) - (5)
                                 Either that.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     Thats awfully thin.... - (bepatient)
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