Post #11,492
10/3/01 1:39:03 PM
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What the fuck is it with cookie sites anyway?
What earthly use would www.law.com have for requiring me to have a cookie on my computer before they let me read anything on their site? It's not like I'm going to be buying anything from them or any of their advertisers. It's not like they're collecting any useful demographic information from me. WHY, you stupid bastards, WHY? Some sites (New York Times, MSNBC, ezboard, elsewhere) use cookies to store passwords and stuff. Fine. Personalized information that the site actually *uses*, well, at least there's some rationale for it. Sorry.You must have cookies enabled to enjoy this site. Please adjust this setting in your browser preferences. If you are using Internet Explorer, go to Tools, Internet Options, Security, Custom Level and select 'Enable Cookies'. If you are using Netscape, go to Edit, Preferences, Advanced and select 'Accept all Cookies' from your the options. Law.com uses cookies to provide better and more personalized service to you. For more detailed information regarding the use of cookies, see our Privacy Policy. I don't need better and more personalized service, you fuckers. I got there from www.overlawyered.com and only want to read the one single article and have no desire to have personalized settingns. Semi-obligatory apology for language.
Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned.
-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
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Post #11,508
10/3/01 2:30:59 PM
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Re: What the fuck is it with cookie sites anyway?
If you used a [link|http://www.mozilla.org|real browser] you'd be able to control cookies to your heart's content, including specifying which sites were allowed to set them.
Peter Shill For Hire [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
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Post #11,532
10/3/01 3:07:32 PM
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I'm fucking using Mozillia .94
The law.com site detects that I'm not allowing their cookies and refuses entrance.
Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned.
-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
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Post #11,536
10/3/01 3:16:12 PM
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So decline to use the site
You really can't get too annoyed about this; if I came round to your house, and you said "please take your shoes off or you can't come in", and proceeded to physically (but painlessly) remove me from your house when I *didn't* take my shoes off, how offended would I have a right to be?
Peter Shill For Hire [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
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Post #11,603
10/3/01 7:22:07 PM
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Ah, but what if I kept your shoes if you did?
Law.com is going to try to keep its cookie if I allow them to. It's like you coming to my house, yielding up your shoes, but me not giving them back when you leave.
Well, OK maybe the analogy is not that great. But it's close.
Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned.
-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
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Post #11,629
10/3/01 8:25:41 PM
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That site sucks so many ways from Sunday it's not funny
I use Junkbuster. For whatever reason, it doesn't bother me though I don't allow its cookies.
One fix for some sites (MSNBC IIRC), is to let the fuckers set a cookie. Then go back, edit it to something else, and change preferences to either let it out, only, or in, only. Reedit from time to time as you wish.
There used to be a bit of a push to share cookies among users. I just publicize the one registration site that I use: The New York Times: cypherpunks6:cypherpunks6.
Otherwise, just ditch the site. If you need content, get someone to send it to you out-of-band.
-- Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #11,605
10/3/01 7:25:54 PM
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I partly agree, but mostly not.
The Shill For Hire goes: You really can't get too annoyed about this Well, yes and no. Not in the terms you describe it, but... if I came round to your house, and you said "please take your shoes off or you can't come in", and proceeded to physically (but painlessly) remove me from your house when I *didn't* take my shoes off, how offended would I have a right to be? ...but this is kind'a the other way around, innit? Look, I'm a Scandahoovian, so I feel weird when I'm at someone's and they *don't* ask me to take my shoes off; when I see that they themselves keep theirs on, and I do likewise to blend in. I tend to think to myself, "Do they *like* to clean their floors twice as often as sensible people who take their shoes off would have to?", and "Don't they ever lie down on the floor? Don't their kids *crawl around* on it? And they walk on it -- with their probably-stepped-in-dogshit *shoes* on?!?" So I -- heh! -- "Know Fucking Everything" about taking my shoes off in other people's homes... (Including the importance of wearing not-*too*-holey socks.) But your proposed scenario is bass-ackwards, compared to the situation with cookies. Here's the inverse -- and IMeverSoHO, more correct -- parallel: If you told me, "please wear these special radio-tracker-equipped shoes for ever after you've been in my house or you can't come in", I'd say "Fuck you too!" and never go to your place again. Which, yes, is kind of what you said -- BUT, the difference is, if you accosted me with *that* preposterous suggestion, I damn well think I *would* have a right to be offended, at your sheer fucking nerve.
Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #11,683
10/4/01 12:38:18 AM
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trying to follow logic, but I think I agree
and it's weird when I find myself agreeing with CRConrad.
Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned.
-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
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Post #11,702
10/4/01 5:39:14 AM
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It is??? That's funny...
...because *I* agree with *you* more often than not.
Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #11,598
10/3/01 7:06:59 PM
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They sucking fu -- eh, fucking suck, that's what.
What else is new?
Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #11,641
10/3/01 9:25:32 PM
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At least they tell you you need them.
I've encountered sites that Just Don't Work until you let their cookie in. And unless you have an inkling, there's NO *@ clue as to why it goes all wierd on you.
Wade
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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