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Post #11,487
by wharris2
10/3/01 1:20:02 PM
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New Why 9/12?
Human inhumanity to man has been around as long as humans have existed.

Why 9/12? Why not when the Rowandans massacred each other? Why not Bosnia? Why not Somolia? Why not the African AIDS statistics?

One of the problems with the concept of a good and caring God is why He permits suffering to happen. Every church has wrestled with this problem (and none really successfully answer it.)

What was it about 6000+ New Yorkers dying at the hands of a couple dozen fanatics that did it for you?
I say that not as a card-carrying Christian, but as one who is cynical about most (OK, all the ones I'm familiar with) major religions. If there is an afterlife, I think it'll be more like Spider Robinson's Life House rather than clouds, 70 virgins, and/or choirs of angels. But if you *are* a believer, nothing that happened on 9/11/2001 should turn you one way or the other. Senseless events have happened before and will happen again.
Who knows how empty the sky is
In the place of a fallen tower.
Who knows how quiet it is in the home
Where a son has not returned.

-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #11,661
by deSitter
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10/3/01 11:16:40 PM
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New Simple
These are crimes (NOT war acts) in God's name.

Not my God. Piss on everyone, Christain Jew Moslem and whatever the fuck else. You all deserve what you will get, which is annihilation.
Post #11,776
by rsf
10/4/01 1:31:20 PM
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New Don't forget
to also add in the aethiests to that lot.

'Religion is poison'
Ray
     Atheism And The Burden Of Proof - (pwhysall) - (44) - Oct. 3, 2001, 01:36:27 AM EDT
         Personal experience. - (static) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:00:31 AM EDT
             Sorta. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 3, 2001, 08:27:03 AM EDT
         Logic Chopping - (deSitter) - (6) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:26:29 AM EDT
             Says *you*. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 08:25:41 AM EDT
                 Indeed, sez I. God is personal. -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:17:27 PM EDT
             Why 9/12? - (wharris2) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 01:20:02 PM EDT
                 Simple - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:16:40 PM EDT
                     Don't forget - (rsf) - Oct. 4, 2001, 01:31:20 PM EDT
             Data Point - (pwhysall) - Oct. 3, 2001, 07:21:39 PM EDT
         It's been (un)done - (Ashton) - (9) - Oct. 3, 2001, 06:10:56 AM EDT
             Science can measure anything - (Brandioch) - (8) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:32:42 PM EDT
                 Faith... - (inthane-chan) - (7) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:39:48 PM EDT
                     "Take the red pill..." :-) -NT - (static) - (6) - Oct. 3, 2001, 10:23:14 PM EDT
                         You know, I'm really beginning to hate that movie. - (inthane-chan) - (5) - Oct. 4, 2001, 12:27:48 PM EDT
                             Sad but true. - (Brandioch) - Oct. 4, 2001, 01:21:34 PM EDT
                             I know what you mean. - (static) - (3) - Oct. 4, 2001, 10:39:49 PM EDT
                                 *SMACK!* - (inthane-chan) - (2) - Oct. 5, 2001, 12:33:22 PM EDT
                                     I didn't say I *agreed* with doing that! - (static) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2001, 03:08:39 AM EDT
                                         DeSmacking. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:45:35 PM EDT
         Not here to 'save" you what you are or believe is up to you - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 10:20:32 AM EDT
         I assert that pwhysall does not exist. - (marlowe) - (12) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:51:04 AM EDT
             spent 10 hrs with a certified psycho doing the same thing - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 01:12:48 PM EDT
             The burden of proof lies where it always does - (pwhysall) - (10) - Oct. 3, 2001, 02:24:41 PM EDT
                 Just want to make sure I understand your POV - (tseliot) - (6) - Oct. 3, 2001, 03:05:03 PM EDT
                     Yep. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 3, 2001, 03:10:29 PM EDT
                         I think I see the confusion. Maybe? - (brettj) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2001, 08:52:50 PM EDT
                             Nothing here 'annoying' - (Ashton) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:52:59 PM EDT
                             Nah, that's not it. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2001, 01:34:49 AM EDT
                                 The Bible. - (static) - Oct. 4, 2001, 10:47:35 PM EDT
                                 Re: The violence in the OT - (brettj) - Oct. 5, 2001, 02:57:35 AM EDT
                 The alleged pwhysall shifts his ground. - (marlowe) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 05:02:25 PM EDT
                     What ARE you talking about? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 05:05:11 PM EDT
                         You're asserting things all over the place. - (marlowe) - Oct. 3, 2001, 06:19:07 PM EDT
         So you're saying the burden of proof exists for those who... - (marlowe) - Oct. 3, 2001, 11:53:37 AM EDT
         Scientific reason you dont believe - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2001, 01:17:48 PM EDT
             s/gene/meme -NT - (tseliot) - Oct. 3, 2001, 01:29:57 PM EDT
             Heh.. you may be as close as any come - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 06:08:34 PM EDT
                 gladly ripped off idea couldnt remember who to - (boxley) - Oct. 4, 2001, 12:03:46 AM EDT
         Do ants understand their position in the universe? - (brettj) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2001, 09:24:28 PM EDT
             they are as certain as we are -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 4, 2001, 10:21:36 PM EDT
             Ants can be regarded as cells, an ant colony as an organ. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2001, 10:46:18 PM EDT
                 Are you implying that we are merely neurons on the internet - (brettj) - Oct. 5, 2001, 02:01:44 AM EDT
                 After re-reading your last statement ... - (brettj) - Oct. 5, 2001, 02:28:23 AM EDT
         The null hypothesis... - (screamer) - Oct. 10, 2001, 12:48:06 PM EDT

Mandatory cayenne enemas would have the same effect.
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