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New I've never understood this.
Implants, I mean. Personally, I would much rather see the real small breasts of a woman (from the French: "Anything more than enough to fill a champagne glass is a waste") than the balloons some women put in their chests. A physican friend's wife had implants - bought the best money could buy from a "reknowned" physician in the field. The first time I saw her I leaned over to my wife and remarked, "Now, why in hell would any woman want to put balloons in her chest?" She was surprised, and later after she relayed what I'd said to the husband he was aghast, that I'd seen so clearly the "fakeness" of his wife's breasts.

I don't get it. Every pair I've ever seen are almost laughably obvious - and I've seen some of the best "work" done in that field. What's the appeal? The don't look real, they don't feel real, so what gives? It's the woman herself, isn't it, that raises the desire in us to "reach out and touch them" anyway. At least for me it is, for I care not to fondle anyone's but my wife's.
bcnu,
Mikem

The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.

- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
New Goes hand in hand with pubic shaving...
..and the "Baby Huey" look - backwards hat, flabby baby-fatted saggy shorts etc.

The secret, unconscious objective is to remain infantile. A woman who removes her real breasts and her target hair is basically stating - "I don't want to be an adult".

See comments RE culture of vanity, feminism etc.
-drl
New David Brin has an interesting piece on that
Evolutionary theory is a little out of his educational specialty (physics) but he makes no obvious errors in his speculation on the connection between youth and beauty in [link|http://www.davidbrin.com/neotenyarticle1.html|http://www.davidbrin...tenyarticle1.html].

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New Ben, you're driving me nuts.
Everytime you post a link to something, it's such a #@!%#% good read, that I just have to stop and read it then.

I gotta get back to reading Brin more often - he's definitely got a few good ideas rattlin' around in his brain.
In that final hour, when each breath is a struggle to take, and you are looking back over your life's accomplishments, which memories would you treasure? The empires you built, or the joy you spread to others?

Therin lies the true measure of a man.
New Be glad I can't link to books then :-P
Speaking of which, I have a few that I need to write reviews of when I get time.

But not today. Today I am tired and need a break.

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New So how's today? :D
New Today I have a job and would like to work...
Which is also getting in the way of my reading, let alone writing reviews. But two books that I've liked recently are, The Price of Motherhood and The Price of Loyalty.

They are also, um, depressing. Sorry...

Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New No surprise there.
Ben Tilly. Depressing books. They're like Adam and Eve - made for each other.
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
New Except that I really exist. :-P
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New b-tilly: polite heretic for our times
New I did notice one problem
I did notice one problem with his evidence, but I don't think it actually upsets his argument.

On the second page he quotes a huge survey of what women look for in mates. The problem is that smaller stuties of American women have shown that there is a significant disconnect between what women say they look for in partners and what they actually do.

When asked to list traits, things like humor, kindness and intellegence tend to appear at the top of the list. But when asked to pick between various videotapes of men talking about themselves, apparent wealth, physical apperance, self confidence and such where actually favored more strongly.

I don't think that upsets his overall idea though, and it plays into his comment on the third page about the problems women have selecting mates.

Jay
New I caught that too...
...but it does play into the "suitable mate" theory - attractive appearance indicating health, ample resources to support children, proper physique to push the next generation onwards, etc.
In that final hour, when each breath is a struggle to take, and you are looking back over your life's accomplishments, which memories would you treasure? The empires you built, or the joy you spread to others?

Therin lies the true measure of a man.
New Agreed
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New Let's not forget the Prime Directive within all them details
Thou (female) shalt not appear to be Smarter than thy boy-toy in the baggy shorts/Power Tie {same thing}

Let us pause for a few moments of silent angst at the horrifying plight of {Woman 2003} {sigh}

She who must wrack brain and heart for some New more effective means -???- of appearing as Dumbed-down as She Must ... now to unprecedented levels of sweeping cluelessness. But there is More:

She must also be anorexic, (despite joining inSignificant Other in junkish cuisine) install labia- and other metal- attachments of the skin/body cutting-ergo-despising sort; must erase any vocabulary acquired (secretly, despite skool, maybe even by reading :-0)
..so as not to exceed the Daily 200+ grunt-vocabulary of approval / disapproval as.. obviate the need for even one more new Sonnet ever being needed (or even heard of).

Finally, and in order to Eat (pre- mid- or post-) ""relationship"" - she must simultaneously wear non-gender-suggesting Ugly Suits to blend in with the Armani uniform and:

Learn All Those TLA's, staying current daily, as The Corp Mission is redefined for offshoring Her Job too!
[just as soon as she trains-up her temporary replacement .. untilitshisturn]
MUST - even treat with mock-seriousness (!!) the male-agonising over the Latest Sportz Scores:

..those faux results of roving bands of vivid-Suited mercenaries who travel around extorting Palatial Stadia construction (over prisons, even - the other #1) - for a time, locally - then Move On from
..the local lemmings as shall have Worshipped *Their Team* !! rah. rah.
(That'll be $120, for behind the post. Cash, asshole. Next!)

(Must prepare all-along for a 100% self-sufficient 'old age' as her youthful plastic beauty no longer Cuts it\ufffd within the rankishness of the boy-toys: whom she shall Outlive. The final Evening-up? if a bit too late for proper savouring)
((but Oh.. there really IS - savouring as beats slavering, as in {cackle} {cackle} {cackle})) I hear..

So.. how about a little Compassion here, chaps!
..before deciding upon today's program of eMasculated mindless destruction, random violence played-out local or abroad -
(to neurally neutralize the mandatory sycophantic posture just.. temporarily left.. behind at-The-Office?)
Hey! it's ALL cause and effect, y'know?



Ashton Jung Atilla Yanni
US. Poor. Bastards!
New Champagne...

...the one thing that's always puzzled me on this one is globes...

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...or flutes?

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What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
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Expand Edited by kmself Aug. 15, 2003, 02:10:12 AM EDT
New ROFL! Good one.
bcnu,
Mikem

The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.

- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
New ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #113815 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=113815|ICLRPD]
--

Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them.

--Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
New Ummm.. (That one's in Illinois?) :-\ufffd
New Not Illinois
This is farmland, remember? Except for the college students, you would need the Champagne *bucket* in Champaign.
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[link|http://www.talion.com/questionw.html|?W]
Where were you in 72?
     Definitely on a downward spiral. - (bepatient) - (24)
         Not the only problem - (drewk)
         I've never understood this. - (mmoffitt) - (18)
             Goes hand in hand with pubic shaving... - (deSitter) - (12)
                 David Brin has an interesting piece on that - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                     Ben, you're driving me nuts. - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                         Be glad I can't link to books then :-P - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                             So how's today? :D -NT - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                                 Today I have a job and would like to work... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                     No surprise there. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                         Except that I really exist. :-P -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                             b-tilly: polite heretic for our times -NT - (Ashton)
                     I did notice one problem - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
                         I caught that too... - (inthane-chan)
                         Agreed -NT - (ben_tilly)
                 Let's not forget the Prime Directive within all them details - (Ashton)
             Champagne... - (kmself) - (4)
                 ROFL! Good one. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (Arkadiy)
                 Ummm.. (That one's in Illinois?) :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (1)
                     Not Illinois - (Silverlock)
         Yep, and ever so. - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
             And men even {worse stuff} re er.. baldness :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
             Mmmm, belladonna - (mhuber) - (1)
                 Well, I don't know . . - (Andrew Grygus)

Cool, that has vacuum tubes in it.
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