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New So what's with the suicide bombing?
And the indoctrination of the children? And those parades with the toddlers swathed in dynamite sticks? They look like people to me. Obnoxious people.

These people have the leadership they're willing to tolerate. And if they haven't got the gumption to even try to overthrow these bastards themselves, maybe they don't want to badly enough.

By way of contrast: at least a couple of ethnic groups in Iraq tried to overthrow Saddam. That's very much to their credit. And if had been up to me, my country would have made sure they succeeded. I sure hope we don't make the same mistake in Iran. Especially since the current regime in Iran is making trouble for everyone in Iraq.

I do not blame the Kurds or the Iraqi Shia for Saddam Hussein. I blame the Tikriti, because they were in on it. I blame the other Sunni Arabs, because they didn't even try to do anything about it. I don't blame the people of Iran for the Ayatollas. Well, maybe some of them. But not all of them. I most certainly do blame the Palestinians for the PLO and Hamas, because they're NOT MAKING A VISIBLE EFFORT TO GET RID OF THEM.

WHERE'S THE SINCERE DISAVOWAL? It's like our resident mouth-foaming Leftists with regard to every single mass murdering thugocrat out there. They won't say a word against any of them without a lot of prodding, and even then it's a grudging "well, we never said we liked Saddam. It's just that we oppose any meaningful effort to get rid of him." A day late and a dollar short.

Sometimes what people don't say speaks volumes. It's the dog that would not bark in the night - except at Uncle Sam.
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DEAL WITH IT.
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
I helped depose Saddam. Did you?
When the facts speak for themselves, only a fool insists on having a debate.
The future is leaving the station, the US is at the throttle, and the Left isn't on board.
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New There will be a civil war amongst the Palestinians
It has to be on their timing, and after Arafat is dead so within 5 years I hope. Once the civil war happens there will be a clearcut leadership. It might be Hamas, Hezbulla or Fatah. If you get HBO try to catch Oliver Stones documentary. Listen to the sides. The most articulate is the American Educated Al Aska raghead with the Kalishnikov, hopefully that faction will win.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]

As the Poets have mournfully sung.
Death takes the innocent young,
The rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
And those who are very well hung.
W.H. Auden
New Excuse the crap out of me.
Opposing thuggocrats has been a leftie hobby for a long, long time.

Bush just realized it's a convenient cover for the lack of a legitimate causus belli. I predict the next ruler of Iraq will be a bloody thuggocrat who's willing to play along with Bush.

In particular, some of us suggested that Bush I should not have bailed Saddam's ass out when the Iraqui's had almost overthrown him. And should have at least mentioned that gassing the Kurds is considered in poor taste - yeah, he knew about it and was in communication with the thug at the time and DIDN'T SAY A FUCKING WORD.

There's a lot that could have been done short of war. Like not installing a known thug in the first place. But Republicans (except in odd times like this) LOVE murderous bastards like Saddam until they do something that interferes with business - in this case, nationalizing the oil production*. So do "electable" Democrats, unfortunately. But us foaming mouth leftists have a long history of getting upset about murderous thuggocrats and being told that sovereignty is more important than civil rights. Nice term "human/civil" - kind of implies we are being picky about electoral improprieties and restrictions on porn, when the rights we are more concerned with are things like the right not to be tortured to death for no particular reason.

* No, the war isn't about oil, exactly. But if Saddam had continued to play nice with the oil companies, Bush would still love him. Mass graves and gas and all.

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Sometime you the windshield, sometime you the bug...
New Uhhh.. Yes.___ Exactly.
     lets move the Palestinians to Alaska - (boxley) - (10)
         I nominate Antarctica. - (marlowe) - (8)
             Define a "people" - (boxley) - (7)
                 The decency of the human condition demands... - (marlowe) - (6)
                     you have never met, worked with Palestinians I take it - (boxley) - (5)
                         Met a very nice Palestinian at Java ONE - (bluke)
                         So what's with the suicide bombing? - (marlowe) - (3)
                             There will be a civil war amongst the Palestinians - (boxley)
                             Excuse the crap out of me. - (mhuber) - (1)
                                 Uhhh.. Yes.___ Exactly. -NT - (Ashton)
         Bartcop has a standing invitation - (Silverlock)

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