As I understand it, the problem EJBs tried to solve was

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Post #102,706 by dmarker 5/20/03 4:03:32 AM Reply	As I understand it, the problem EJBs tried to solve was the need for server logic that could be isolated & thus made persistent if needed, but more importantly an EJB conformed to a standard design that supported getters setters and introspection. A EJB container being the mechanism for managing the persistence of the beans. AFAIR IBM's Hursley lab (of CICS fame) had a lot to do with the architecting & developement of EJB despite any dubious claims to the contrary from Sun. IBM were trying to bring some scalability to Java. As a former strong proponent of Java, I find it has become so damned complex and has so many non-OOT exceptions to the rule, that I wonder why the world missed ST. But such is life ... Doug Marker (Java was so digestable to former C programmers)
Post #102,712 by bluke 5/20/03 5:13:03 AM Reply	EJB Complexity Just the fact that you need a Home Interface for EJB's is ridiculous. It stems from the static typing and function calling orientation of Java. In a true message passing system these issues go away.
Post #103,043 by tuberculosis 5/21/03 11:11:06 PM Reply	The Home interface is the class interface Since Java doesn't have real class objects, they found they had to put the class hierarchy back via the home mechanism. Its quite lame. "Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes. Contestants in a suicidal race." - Synchronicity II - The Police

EJB's and classic OO theory - (bluke) - (5) - May 19, 2003, 02:38:21 AM EDT

Somewhat... - (admin) - May 19, 2003, 08:46:32 AM EDT

As I understand it, the problem EJBs tried to solve was - (dmarker) - (2) - May 20, 2003, 04:03:32 AM EDT

EJB Complexity - (bluke) - (1) - May 20, 2003, 05:13:03 AM EDT

The Home interface is the class interface - (tuberculosis) - May 21, 2003, 11:11:06 PM EDT

Classic OO theory is fscked, modern OO is double fscked - (tablizer) - May 20, 2003, 10:39:07 PM EDT

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