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Somebody, please. PLEASE turn the lights out already! - (mmoffitt) - (21) - March 19, 2019, 08:29:46 AM EDT

It's a physical skill. Smaller motion scale, but nonetheless. - (malraux) - (20) - March 19, 2019, 10:36:58 AM EDT

And disaffected couch potatoes. $DEITY knows we need more of them. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (19) - March 19, 2019, 11:52:36 AM EDT

How do you know they're either of those things? - (pwhysall) - (18) - March 19, 2019, 12:02:24 PM EDT

I don't play video games. - (mmoffitt) - (17) - March 19, 2019, 12:13:22 PM EDT

You should look at the kids who play e-sports - (pwhysall) - (16) - March 19, 2019, 12:25:51 PM EDT

This. - (malraux) - (7) - March 19, 2019, 12:53:28 PM EDT

Anecdotal evidence != proof. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - March 20, 2019, 09:50:50 AM EDT

What I see there: - (malraux) - (5) - March 20, 2019, 11:49:28 AM EDT

It's highly subjective. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - March 20, 2019, 02:21:05 PM EDT

Feeling a little whip-sawed. - (malraux) - (2) - March 20, 2019, 03:18:07 PM EDT

I already refuted your anecdotal evidence. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 21, 2019, 03:31:14 PM EDT

Not disagreeing with the studies. - (malraux) - March 21, 2019, 05:19:11 PM EDT

beats digging ditches by far I have done heavy manual labor, happy to drool in front of a lapper -NT - (boxley) - March 20, 2019, 03:26:30 PM EDT

Never >mind< the avoirdupois angle: - (Ashton) - (7) - March 19, 2019, 04:45:00 PM EDT

Unlike football, wrestling and boxing, which teach kindness and gentleness? -NT - (drook) - (3) - March 19, 2019, 08:26:05 PM EDT

..but lethality isn't their er, raison d'etre, right? (not to mention their bonus: free exercise.) -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - March 19, 2019, 11:05:24 PM EDT

I played football in 5th and 6th grade - (drook) - (1) - March 20, 2019, 06:17:44 AM EDT

I stand corrected: that is indeed the v-SUB-v Message of the game. Mea culpa: (also to the Coaches) - (Ashton) - March 20, 2019, 05:26:04 PM EDT

They know it's not real - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 20, 2019, 03:05:06 AM EDT

As with anything - (malraux) - (1) - March 20, 2019, 11:52:04 AM EDT

Clockwork Orange, prison reading program ... QED -NT - (drook) - March 20, 2019, 12:57:58 PM EDT

Missouri representative wants every resident to own an AR-15 - (lincoln) - (3) - March 18, 2019, 11:08:03 AM EDT

What could possibly go wrong? -NT - (drook) - March 18, 2019, 11:53:34 AM EDT

Well.. he's close to "what every Murican ought to ponder owning"... - (Ashton) - (1) - March 18, 2019, 07:30:29 PM EDT

rather have a mini14 :-) -NT - (boxley) - March 18, 2019, 07:31:26 PM EDT

IT.-related [Boeing]: re s/ware bug + bad pointer veils actual cause + Addendum "How To Run 2.5 yrs: - (Ashton) - (43) - March 17, 2019, 10:40:42 PM EDT

Unrolled Trevor Sumner thread. - (Another Scott) - (6) - March 17, 2019, 05:27:46 PM EDT

Just now, too: AXIOS gives a 'cubic-closest-packing'/incisive Summary of the 'issues' (an hour ago) - (Ashton) - (3) - March 17, 2019, 06:16:41 PM EDT

Won't matter - (drook) - March 17, 2019, 09:23:47 PM EDT

not really drumpf's fault he was not president in 2011 - (boxley) - March 17, 2019, 09:35:33 PM EDT

Regulation is only part of the FAA's mandate. - (mmoffitt) - March 18, 2019, 08:27:35 AM EDT

Re: On LionAir, pilots were never even told about the MCAS - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 18, 2019, 08:48:36 AM EDT

You posted a pic of that module.. which prompted moi to stare at it for some. time. - (Ashton) - March 18, 2019, 07:10:01 PM EDT

NewYorker article gets it right re. techno and the legal investigation(s) in transit - (Ashton) - (1) - March 19, 2019, 04:19:45 PM EDT

But "Bidness is SO much better at *EVERYTHING* than Government Bureacrats", no? -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 20, 2019, 09:53:27 AM EDT

They fought MCAS "more than two dozen times" and it never occurred to them to turn it off? - (mmoffitt) - (27) - March 20, 2019, 10:21:13 AM EDT

I don't follow that conclusion. - (malraux) - (26) - March 20, 2019, 12:12:54 PM EDT

Read the FARs. - (mmoffitt) - (24) - March 20, 2019, 02:32:53 PM EDT

Every plane ever made is 100% tech -NT - (drook) - (3) - March 20, 2019, 03:59:28 PM EDT

Also: vaccines for preventable childhood diseases that are otherwise miserably fatal - (pwhysall) - March 21, 2019, 03:10:24 AM EDT

Should have been more clear: Information Technology (i.e. computers and software) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 21, 2019, 03:32:38 PM EDT

Which are used to design all of these wonders of the modern age. -NT - (malraux) - March 21, 2019, 05:30:44 PM EDT

Meh. - (Another Scott) - (14) - March 20, 2019, 04:33:01 PM EDT

"Airline mechanics tried four times since Oct. 26" says it all: how Know they had Fixed it, then? - (Ashton) - March 20, 2019, 06:42:44 PM EDT

It is definitely not a "cop out". Them's the rules and every pilot knows it. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (12) - March 22, 2019, 08:44:53 AM EDT

Somehow I don't think that the pilots are going to get the lion's share of the blame in these cases. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11) - March 22, 2019, 10:38:15 AM EDT

heh. You don't know the FAA. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (10) - March 22, 2019, 01:10:18 PM EDT

Reuters today. - (Another Scott) - (9) - March 22, 2019, 04:38:41 PM EDT

I'll make you a bet. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - March 25, 2019, 11:01:59 AM EDT

Naah. We'll see. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 25, 2019, 10:51:04 AM EDT

..think that: *THIS* time, there's been far too much Ink properly flung - (Ashton) - (4) - March 25, 2019, 05:21:56 PM EDT

The FAA's mission is schizophrenic. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 26, 2019, 09:47:46 AM EDT

So promotion is the goal, safety is a tactic -NT - (drook) - (2) - March 26, 2019, 12:40:56 PM EDT

Yes, of course, Polly. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 26, 2019, 02:14:38 PM EDT

..as Murican as cyanide-laced *Apple Pie, innit? - (Ashton) - March 26, 2019, 02:34:14 PM EDT

More from Reuters. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 29, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT

Um, yeah, it kinda was. - (mmoffitt) - March 29, 2019, 11:34:37 AM EDT

? - (malraux) - (4) - March 20, 2019, 04:40:08 PM EDT

Did I even mention "root cause"? No. I did not. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 21, 2019, 03:43:17 PM EDT

so how do you feel about self driving tractor trailers? :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - March 21, 2019, 03:49:26 PM EDT

Have those all you want. After I'm dead. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 21, 2019, 04:55:23 PM EDT

Then be more clear with what you're saying. - (malraux) - March 21, 2019, 05:29:46 PM EDT

This logic is impeccable. Or I ain't got no cuth at all. Thanks for Beautiful concision! - (Ashton) - March 20, 2019, 06:02:04 PM EDT

More more from Reuters - (Another Scott) - (5) - April 3, 2019, 10:17:36 AM EDT

If this turns out to be true... - (mmoffitt) - (4) - April 3, 2019, 12:21:11 PM EDT

Boeing has taken responsibility for both crashes now - (malraux) - (3) - April 5, 2019, 04:23:31 PM EDT

BS - (crazy) - (2) - April 6, 2019, 08:32:45 AM EDT

That's the part I don't get - (drook) - April 6, 2019, 08:37:13 AM EDT

Yeah... - (Another Scott) - April 6, 2019, 03:45:15 PM EDT

Lawrence Ferlinghetti turns 100! next week.. - (Ashton) - (2) - March 15, 2019, 09:49:19 PM EDT

Re: Lawrence Ferlinghetti turns 100! next week.. - (dmcarls) - (1) - March 15, 2019, 11:43:46 PM EDT

..or just carry around the Tome, "The Pseudonymous Works of Kirkegård" ;^> -NT - (Ashton) - March 17, 2019, 07:34:17 AM EDT

what do you do when book of face and instant gram go down? Tentacle porn! - (boxley) - March 14, 2019, 09:28:13 PM EDT

Radiolab host (Jad Abumrad) is on City Arts & Lectures/npr re it's history ..all charmingly, wisely. - (Ashton) - March 10, 2019, 05:03:13 PM EDT

I would be quite nervous about flying in a 737-Max - (Another Scott) - (23) - March 10, 2019, 12:06:12 PM EDT

It's the anti-stall system. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - March 11, 2019, 10:46:06 AM EDT

It kinda sounds like a PID tuning issue to me. - (Another Scott) - (19) - March 11, 2019, 10:55:08 AM EDT

Re: But imagine you're on a roller coaster... - (mmoffitt) - (18) - March 11, 2019, 12:27:26 PM EDT

As said before (not just by moi) - (Ashton) - (17) - March 11, 2019, 04:36:58 PM EDT

From 11-14-18: "Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots" - (Ashton) - (16) - March 11, 2019, 07:08:54 PM EDT

Whom to believe? - (mmoffitt) - (15) - March 12, 2019, 08:40:40 AM EDT

not sure what it takes do disable that particular fly by wire function - (boxley) - (2) - March 12, 2019, 02:29:04 PM EDT

If I were captain or first officer on one, I think I'd turn it off during taxi. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 13, 2019, 08:44:15 AM EDT

makes sense -NT - (boxley) - March 13, 2019, 10:19:50 AM EDT

Methinks that in this compact essay.. - (Ashton) - (2) - March 12, 2019, 03:06:25 PM EDT

Bemused LRPD sez: "There should be an opportunity for somebody here". ;^> Love. It. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - March 12, 2019, 03:24:12 PM EDT

Former DOT Inspector General echoes the themes of this thread--on Amanpour: - (Ashton) - March 12, 2019, 07:38:41 PM EDT

B may have pushed the 737 design a step too far - (scoenye) - (8) - March 12, 2019, 08:08:43 PM EDT

No "off button" but there *are* "Cut-Out Switches". And they aren't hidden. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - March 13, 2019, 09:00:19 AM EDT

"Pilots complained about the 737 Max in a federal database" - (Ashton) - (3) - March 13, 2019, 03:00:59 PM EDT

From that very article. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - March 13, 2019, 04:37:44 PM EDT

from the WaPo today - (rcareaga) - (1) - March 14, 2019, 08:21:49 PM EDT

Somewhat agree. - (mmoffitt) - March 18, 2019, 08:32:48 AM EDT

Thanks. Misread that first time around. - (scoenye) - March 13, 2019, 06:58:19 PM EDT

'Twas my first wonderment also; - (Ashton) - (1) - March 13, 2019, 03:53:17 PM EDT

It still handles fine in level flight - (scoenye) - March 13, 2019, 06:23:12 PM EDT

some Boeing background - (rcareaga) - March 15, 2019, 11:35:42 AM EDT

story on the history of the 737 - (lincoln) - March 15, 2019, 02:03:45 PM EDT

I’ll defer to mmoffitt here, but this seems like something Boeing - (rcareaga) - (6) - March 10, 2019, 12:04:43 PM EDT

it would seem that this constitutes ~some 'General-limitation'... FLAG - (Ashton) - March 10, 2019, 02:56:04 PM EDT

My conjecture. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - March 11, 2019, 10:33:35 AM EDT

I take your point - (rcareaga) - (3) - March 12, 2019, 12:20:06 PM EDT

No argument there. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 12, 2019, 12:29:47 PM EDT

It might not matter at all anymore. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 12, 2019, 01:36:45 PM EDT

There's an eyewitness to crash from very-near-by: - (Ashton) - March 12, 2019, 05:36:32 PM EDT

If you haven't seen Rick Steves' 90 min summation of Euro-fascism - (Ashton) - March 9, 2019, 07:26:10 PM EST

Commonwealth Club/npr: "Zucked, Inside the Facebook Catastrophe", pov of an investor.. - (Ashton) - (1) - March 8, 2019, 06:14:43 PM EST

An absolutely Smashing insider view of much you'd want to know re F/Book and - (Ashton) - March 8, 2019, 11:59:36 PM EST

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