(new) Religion, Philosophy, Metaphysics

here or science? ethics and science - (boxley) - (14) - March 12, 2002, 11:17:02 AM EST

Mmmmmm, anime. - (Brandioch) - (13) - March 12, 2002, 11:33:01 AM EST

Why not? - (orion) - (10) - March 12, 2002, 01:43:12 PM EST

They sure know how to make it sound appetising... - (Meerkat) - (9) - March 12, 2002, 09:59:49 PM EST

Tattoo check! - (Brandioch) - (5) - March 13, 2002, 12:05:27 AM EST

trying to quit (no) -NT - (boxley) - March 13, 2002, 09:21:50 AM EST

No tattoos or any other self-mutilations -NT - (wharris2) - (1) - March 13, 2002, 11:19:05 AM EST

does a bris count :) -NT - (boxley) - March 13, 2002, 11:20:59 AM EST

None here, sorry. -NT - (inthane-chan) - March 13, 2002, 04:46:05 PM EST

Re: Tattoo check! - (pwhysall) - March 14, 2002, 02:13:08 AM EST

It depends - (orion) - (2) - March 13, 2002, 01:49:31 PM EST

Punctuation Police Patrol. Pull it over buddy! - (Silverlock) - (1) - March 14, 2002, 08:56:51 AM EST

Appellate court split: 5 days or hung upside down with a \ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - March 14, 2002, 03:23:42 PM EST

I often wonder - (nking) - March 12, 2002, 07:53:17 PM EST

For some reason... - (static) - March 14, 2002, 07:00:47 AM EST

What happened to me - (nking) - (11) - March 1, 2002, 04:39:29 PM EST

Sorry to hear that. - (Brandioch) - (1) - March 1, 2002, 04:42:12 PM EST

They are helping - (nking) - March 1, 2002, 04:47:11 PM EST

Re: What happened to me - (JayMehaffey) - (5) - March 2, 2002, 01:43:15 AM EST

So their deductions may be valid but, - (Ashton) - March 2, 2002, 05:30:31 AM EST

I can think of a few around here who fit that description... -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 2, 2002, 06:16:25 PM EST

Ok, the way i differ from them - (nking) - (2) - March 2, 2002, 07:08:42 PM EST

Re: Ok, the way i differ from them - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - March 2, 2002, 09:57:46 PM EST

Visas - (nking) - March 3, 2002, 12:00:19 AM EST

Both sorry and happy to hear... - (tseliot) - (1) - March 4, 2002, 01:52:17 PM EST

Thanks for adding those words - (nking) - March 4, 2002, 06:21:58 PM EST

Glad you survived - (mhuber) - March 6, 2002, 12:23:00 AM EST

How I confront the universe. - (marlowe) - (4) - Feb. 28, 2002, 03:57:45 PM EST

And the application of your "logic". - (Brandioch) - Feb. 28, 2002, 06:27:33 PM EST

"...Sail on, Oh ship of State"___(-ment) - (Ashton) - Feb. 28, 2002, 07:17:37 PM EST

Congratulations, you've convinced me. - (Silverlock) - March 1, 2002, 01:18:12 AM EST

I haven't given up on you yet... - (screamer) - March 1, 2002, 11:15:55 AM EST

If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? - (Brandioch) - (54) - Feb. 27, 2002, 02:37:41 PM EST

Fine, I'll fillet the red herring - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:14:37 PM EST

Ummmm, I said there wasn't one. Or did you miss that? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:31:06 PM EST

Oh, the truth about people? - (boxley) - (38) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:18:26 PM EST

Exactly. - (Brandioch) - (34) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:39:14 PM EST

Oh, I see the problem - (drewk) - (33) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:21:02 PM EST

You're actually getting closer (how long has it taken?) - (Brandioch) - (25) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:36:51 PM EST

Try to keep it separate - (drewk) - (24) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:07:55 PM EST

Drew, you are an idiot. - (Brandioch) - (23) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:57:11 PM EST

Is it the truth that Drew is an idiot? - (marlowe) - (22) - Feb. 27, 2002, 06:55:11 PM EST

I believe I have already explained that. - (Brandioch) - (21) - Feb. 27, 2002, 07:15:01 PM EST

Filters are changeable - (boxley) - Feb. 27, 2002, 07:30:53 PM EST

Okay, so there's no "Truth" but there is "Reality" - (drewk) - (16) - Feb. 28, 2002, 11:15:33 AM EST

Those 'things' (!) which "cannot be perceived" - - (Ashton) - Feb. 28, 2002, 11:50:31 AM EST

That's why I told you to read the OTHER thread. - (Brandioch) - (14) - Feb. 28, 2002, 04:05:05 PM EST

Your 'caveat' is exactly the opposite of what I said - (drewk) - (13) - Feb. 28, 2002, 04:37:18 PM EST

Awwww, did I hurt your feelings? - (Brandioch) - (12) - Feb. 28, 2002, 04:52:56 PM EST

Interesting development - (bepatient) - (11) - March 1, 2002, 10:39:58 AM EST

Hey, I'm not the one who's hiding. - (Brandioch) - (10) - March 1, 2002, 11:41:50 AM EST

Er. - (pwhysall) - (9) - March 1, 2002, 11:49:36 AM EST

Not going to happen. - (Brandioch) - (8) - March 1, 2002, 12:20:31 PM EST

Ah... so... other people's behavior... - (admin) - (7) - March 1, 2002, 03:19:29 PM EST

No need for an excuse. - (Brandioch) - (1) - March 1, 2002, 03:53:04 PM EST

In that case... - (admin) - March 1, 2002, 04:02:30 PM EST

Whaaaaaaaaaaaa - (screamer) - (4) - March 1, 2002, 05:05:05 PM EST

Never said it was anything other than opinion. - (admin) - (3) - March 1, 2002, 05:32:28 PM EST

Unfair! - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 2, 2002, 06:14:41 PM EST

Re: Unfair! - (admin) - (1) - March 2, 2002, 07:20:41 PM EST

Please? - (ben_tilly) - March 2, 2002, 11:35:13 PM EST

Your filters are not the universe's fault. - (marlowe) - (2) - Feb. 28, 2002, 03:36:00 PM EST

Your filters can't be removed. Only modified. Slightly. - (Another Scott) - Feb. 28, 2002, 03:57:09 PM EST

Where did I lose you? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 28, 2002, 04:39:24 PM EST

If an egg falls on a chicken, which came first? - (screamer) - (6) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:38:50 PM EST

I though I was pretty clear on that one - (drewk) - (5) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:55:12 PM EST

Okay... Just making sure... - (screamer) - (4) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:05:26 PM EST

OT - Sixteen inches? - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:08:59 PM EST

It was extremely hard... - (screamer) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:16:54 PM EST

That's the great thing about Seattle. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:59:50 PM EST

seattle where even the toe jams are green :) -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 27, 2002, 06:22:38 PM EST

Ah. What the heck do you know about people? - (screamer) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:12:27 PM EST

Of course they are easy to train - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 06:19:53 PM EST

Oh, the old "free will" argument... - (screamer) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:46:25 PM EST

Re: If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? - (JayMehaffey) - (10) - Feb. 27, 2002, 08:20:40 PM EST

Ahhhh, that's the crux of the issue. - (Brandioch) - (9) - Feb. 28, 2002, 05:29:02 PM EST

I don't think so - (JayMehaffey) - (8) - Feb. 28, 2002, 10:00:18 PM EST

Which is an application of my position. - (Brandioch) - March 1, 2002, 12:14:26 PM EST

And I've been getting even crazier than that... - (screamer) - (6) - March 1, 2002, 12:35:19 PM EST

Just a small difference, I think - (drewk) - (1) - March 1, 2002, 12:53:12 PM EST

No difference. At least not in my book. - (screamer) - March 1, 2002, 04:58:29 PM EST

Minor correction. - (Brandioch) - (1) - March 1, 2002, 01:04:38 PM EST

And now that that is done..... - (Brandioch) - March 1, 2002, 01:39:15 PM EST

Quite close enough - (Ashton) - March 1, 2002, 01:54:37 PM EST

More arguments over definitions - (JayMehaffey) - March 2, 2002, 01:16:20 AM EST

If a man speaks in the forest - (Silverlock) - (1) - March 1, 2002, 01:21:36 AM EST

..then he's prolly just tellin war stories - (Ashton) - March 1, 2002, 01:59:04 PM EST

On Effectiveness vs. Truth - (drewk) - (11) - Feb. 26, 2002, 06:05:50 PM EST

That is why you remember Kant's name and not the others. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 26, 2002, 06:26:42 PM EST

You mean besides Ashton, right? :P -NT - (tseliot) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:39:07 PM EST

It may not be only individual filters - (Ashton) - Feb. 27, 2002, 09:28:13 PM EST

Nicely stated, but think you're throwing your pearls before - (marlowe) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:20:31 AM EST

On reality - (screamer) - (6) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:47:29 PM EST

Aren't you talking about 'scale' here? - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 09:45:45 PM EST

LOL. Could I get some chips with my reality? - (screamer) - Feb. 27, 2002, 11:05:49 PM EST

You need verifying factors - (wharris2) - (3) - Feb. 27, 2002, 11:16:35 PM EST

Well.. now we know where Your interests er end. - (Ashton) - (2) - Feb. 28, 2002, 12:47:31 PM EST

Your entire argument is based on a deliberate misspelling! - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 28, 2002, 04:02:14 PM EST

Another demerit for your direct connection with The Truth - (Ashton) - Feb. 28, 2002, 07:05:26 PM EST

Truth, facts, and sour grapes. - (marlowe) - (64) - Feb. 22, 2002, 02:04:55 PM EST

And that's your "Truth"? - (Brandioch) - (28) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:08:32 PM EST

For those who need to think in concrete terms. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:29:04 PM EST

Planet of the Whiners. - (marlowe) - (2) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:42:35 PM EST

Reply to my other post, then. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:13:02 PM EST

Whiners and the truth - (nking) - Feb. 22, 2002, 10:20:57 PM EST

To illustrate it with math. - (Brandioch) - (23) - Feb. 22, 2002, 06:17:43 PM EST

It's not a coin toss for all of us. - (marlowe) - (22) - Feb. 23, 2002, 08:38:40 AM EST

Before you go... If I may... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2002, 09:32:44 AM EST

Don't forget the initial assumptions. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:36:03 PM EST

If that's really his point... - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2002, 02:54:06 PM EST

Reality just doesn't exist for you, does it? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:47:55 PM EST

No random chance here - (nking) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:31:35 PM EST

You still don't want to see the facts. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:40:16 PM EST

Some people have to lie to get to the truth - (nking) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2002, 06:20:05 PM EST

One more time... - (mhuber) - (2) - Feb. 25, 2002, 05:31:05 PM EST

That wasn't the big one - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2002, 05:38:29 PM EST

I see that as a condemnation of - (mhuber) - Feb. 26, 2002, 06:30:54 PM EST

Once.. such hubris might have been entertaining - (Ashton) - (7) - Feb. 23, 2002, 06:00:19 PM EST

How hubristic of you to presume you know better than I. - (marlowe) - (6) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:46:44 PM EST

Marlowe defeated the Nazis? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:54:05 PM EST

Ah.. there's the root/rub: John Dewey Pragmatism lives! - (Ashton) - (4) - Feb. 26, 2002, 04:00:28 PM EST

I'm still waiting for him to explain Clinton. - (Brandioch) - (3) - Feb. 26, 2002, 04:10:47 PM EST

Attila got even More done.. - (Ashton) - Feb. 26, 2002, 05:25:39 PM EST

Only on planet Brandioch. - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:00:13 AM EST

Thus proving my point. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:54:04 AM EST

Another illustration - The Placebo Effect. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2002, 12:38:53 PM EST

Re: "The Truth" according to the Rev. Ashcroft. - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 24, 2002, 01:09:51 PM EST

Oops - blong under Alex, re Ashcroft - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2002, 05:21:40 PM EST

Yes, one can always hope for s sense of humor. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 24, 2002, 05:45:52 PM EST

A relevant fact you should note - (ben_tilly) - (29) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:35:52 PM EST

Re: A relevant fact you should note - (Steve Lowe) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:47:23 PM EST

Duly noted. - (marlowe) - (27) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:55:17 PM EST

Mrs. Scarlett, in the library, with the candlestick. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 22, 2002, 05:29:09 PM EST

Since this is the Religion, Philosophy and Meta - (screamer) - (25) - Feb. 25, 2002, 01:41:21 PM EST

Real life is the reference point. - (marlowe) - (24) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:28:03 PM EST

Real life? Who's real life? - (screamer) - (2) - Feb. 26, 2002, 11:21:33 PM EST

The sun'll come up tomorrow... - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:48:43 AM EST

When I think of a day that grey and lonely... - (screamer) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:59:03 AM EST

Oh, and by the way, did you even read my post? - (screamer) - (20) - Feb. 26, 2002, 11:42:00 PM EST

You realize you're agreeing with him? - (drewk) - (19) - Feb. 27, 2002, 09:06:21 AM EST

To quote Professor Jones. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:34:36 AM EST

Too easy - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:57:53 AM EST

Which brings us back to "The Truth" (please note the "T"'s) - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 11:29:02 AM EST

I'm affraid I can't give you that point entirely... - (screamer) - (12) - Feb. 27, 2002, 11:52:25 AM EST

Certainty != Truth - (drewk) - (11) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:26:46 PM EST

Shame on me... Semantics 101 - (screamer) - (10) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:13:29 PM EST

What I meant - (drewk) - (9) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:30:33 PM EST

It's good to see you finally joining me. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:39:04 PM EST

Gee, tough question - (drewk) - (5) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:06:51 PM EST

Ah, another "proof" of my point. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:24:57 PM EST

Your point is rather dull - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:50:34 PM EST

Re-read your posts. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:23:50 PM EST

No need - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:52:13 PM EST

Yes you do need to. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:22:43 PM EST

Fair. - (screamer) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 02:05:42 PM EST

What we clever animals are up to - (Ashton) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:19:12 PM EST

Recall the full quote. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:49:15 PM EST

I don't see the problem - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:59:23 PM EST

So why can't you answer my question? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:08:11 PM EST

Having read for comprehension, with all previous judgments - (Ashton) - Feb. 22, 2002, 07:04:24 PM EST

a couple of thoughts - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2002, 12:08:24 AM EST

Well, that's what you get for not doing a reality check. - (marlowe) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:36:19 PM EST

But you can't. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 08:17:09 AM EST

You even quoted it - (drewk) - Feb. 27, 2002, 09:10:14 AM EST

Norm, I'm going to be bluntly honest here. - (inthane-chan) - (26) - Feb. 21, 2002, 09:36:29 PM EST

I am going to be blunty honest here as well - (nking) - (4) - Feb. 21, 2002, 10:33:24 PM EST

Nope, you aren't going to get better over night. - (inthane-chan) - Feb. 21, 2002, 11:01:27 PM EST

As a 30 year Chronic Severe Depression in.... - (folkert) - (2) - Feb. 23, 2002, 11:14:00 PM EST

It may mean that I have to quit my current job - (nking) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2002, 01:01:59 PM EST

It may mean that should put... - (folkert) - Feb. 24, 2002, 08:03:02 PM EST

Good Job. - (Steve Lowe) - Feb. 22, 2002, 01:02:46 AM EST

Going through hell in my own way, too - (wharris2) - (19) - Feb. 22, 2002, 12:58:18 PM EST

I've been to hell many times - (nking) - (18) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:38:16 PM EST

Believe it or not, Norm... - (Another Scott) - (17) - Feb. 23, 2002, 01:35:18 PM EST

Sort of like count your blessings? - (nking) - (16) - Feb. 23, 2002, 06:25:10 PM EST

Stop blaming the outside world - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Feb. 24, 2002, 06:54:43 PM EST

I am not blaming the outside world - (nking) - (4) - Feb. 25, 2002, 12:08:24 AM EST

Bullsh*t - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Feb. 25, 2002, 01:59:57 AM EST

Bullsh*t mark 2 - (nking) - (2) - Feb. 25, 2002, 10:57:06 AM EST

???? - (rsf) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2002, 12:11:17 PM EST

I wanted to do that - (nking) - Feb. 25, 2002, 11:26:24 PM EST

IF you can... - (folkert) - (9) - Feb. 24, 2002, 08:26:03 PM EST

I have tried to do that - (nking) - (8) - Feb. 25, 2002, 12:13:20 AM EST

*SHRUGS* - (folkert) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2002, 10:36:31 PM EST

My opinion exactly - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 26, 2002, 12:51:09 PM EST

Try again - (Silverlock) - (5) - Feb. 26, 2002, 08:36:38 AM EST

Ok then, here I go - (nking) - (4) - Feb. 26, 2002, 10:37:41 AM EST

That's your only other option? - (Silverlock) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2002, 10:46:11 AM EST

I am not in my right mind - (nking) - Feb. 26, 2002, 02:53:57 PM EST

change docs, call around for a free clinic - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2002, 02:14:04 PM EST

I have looked - (nking) - Feb. 26, 2002, 02:55:32 PM EST

Feeling suicidal again - (nking) - (17) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:00:57 AM EST

I don't have all the answers - (Meerkat) - Feb. 16, 2002, 02:02:03 AM EST

There are times I've felt that way - (wharris2) - Feb. 16, 2002, 02:20:46 AM EST

Life will never be completely fair... - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2002, 12:52:36 PM EST

Majorily unfair and in the favor of evil people. - (nking) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:19:23 PM EST

Go to any hospital emergency room - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:48:52 AM EST

Tried it before - (nking) - (1) - Feb. 20, 2002, 09:02:39 PM EST

you are better off than before - (boxley) - Feb. 21, 2002, 09:33:43 AM EST

Yeah, the bad guys get what they want. - (mhuber) - (9) - Feb. 21, 2002, 04:18:57 PM EST

Bad guys always win in real life - (nking) - (8) - Feb. 21, 2002, 10:38:16 PM EST

Not always - (bbronson) - Feb. 21, 2002, 11:45:13 PM EST

Re: Socrates: not that simple - (Steve Lowe) - Feb. 22, 2002, 01:50:39 AM EST

I've seen bad guys lose in real life. - (marlowe) - (5) - Feb. 22, 2002, 02:20:45 PM EST

very rarely, if at all, do they lose. - (nking) - (4) - Feb. 22, 2002, 10:15:29 PM EST

That isn't my experience - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2002, 06:38:45 PM EST

Mean people s*ck! - (nking) - (2) - Feb. 25, 2002, 12:18:07 AM EST

I would bet that you know none of them well - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2002, 01:36:21 AM EST

One day they will go home - (nking) - Feb. 25, 2002, 10:58:17 AM EST

Fun Catholic trivia question - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Feb. 13, 2002, 04:21:08 PM EST

easy stuff - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2002, 04:48:35 PM EST

Nope - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 13, 2002, 05:03:00 PM EST

Re: Fun Catholic trivia question - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2002, 09:24:02 PM EST

Eastern Rite is not Roman Catholic - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 14, 2002, 03:39:00 AM EST

Hint time - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2002, 06:19:32 PM EST

transfer in from the Greek or RU? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2002, 09:10:02 AM EST

Sorry (spoiler) - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:23:41 AM EST

Red China fears uncontrolled religion - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2002, 04:00:54 PM EST

thats just for cults like souther baptists (me dux) -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 13, 2002, 04:49:58 PM EST

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